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[yvie76]

Yes he has alot of solid points that are similar to Romley Stewart’s information. I am looking into this as well and have purchased the information pack. As I have not found remedy applying the processes I have purchased here to discharge debt. The information and solutions Mark suggests in the processes and in the Q & A sessions and consult with Reyna are not clear and somewhat conflicting.

I have had to look else where to find solutions for relief. It is a spiderweb of deception and there is alot to unlearn.

[Ant_made]

Thank you Yvette for your quick response. Are you seeing a benefit in it so far?

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

His opening statement is this “How do human governments acquire control of and over our lives, our property? Info in layman’s terms here how we lost control, and what may be done to reclaim control. Can we be free of debt and other bondage? “Did the United States, Canada et al offer a birth certificate to you? Did you receive it? Did you accept it for value and return it as a security (with proper indorsement)? If you do not accept it for value and deposit it as an asset, you have voluntarily waived rights to a distribution from the trust that is available to you.” Byron Beers” Unfortunately we did not receive the BC our parents were the informants and as such they are the ones who were responsible for allowing its creation. The BC belongs to the system not us, we have use and possession rights and this enables us to use it in certain ways. They offer for us to use it as ID even though it states on the document that it is not to be used in that way so we are carrying out fraudulent behaviour whenever we agree to do this. They are getting us to identify that we will act as surety for the strawman on the BC and when we sign on behalf of the strawman it gives them access to the funds. If you were a crook and you had set this system up for yourself and the person you were conning tried to take the money out of the account for themselves, what do you think your immediate reaction would be likely to be? When we use it to discharge small debts it doesn’t cause much of a ripple (although they will still try to charge you with all sorts of things when you do it and they get away with it if you don’t know how to hold your position) and they still have access to the majority of the funds and so all is well. Having said that, anyone is at liberty to try any process they hear of out there but be sure you know all of the ramifications if you decide to go down this path and what you are likely to have to deal with as a backlash. It may be a valid way to proceed and the best way to find out is to test it yourself. I don’t think Mark teaches this as he has learnt to play the game of chess and win using the things that are in place. He was severely tested when he first started doing this but now they know he is competent they leave him in peace most of the time. So I prefer to play it safe and stay within his methods where I know what is likely to happen and I have learnt to the best of my ability to prepare for any encounter or backlash by doing intense study under his tutelage.

[Ant_made]

I mean no disrespect to SE and I get what you are saying. He speaks of the same, but is coming from another angle. He talks about real Freedom from their system. A way to not get flagged and to take control of the name, not own it. He talks about the BC being the document that identifies that registration exists and we are not the owners of it, nor the system. He talks about Indorsing the front of the BC and becoming the Attorney to the name by way of a Proxy. We are the Banker, as we are the only beneficiary that is the source to the account, but because we can never own the name, so technically can’t be the beneficiary to the trust. He uses the Old Testament for most of the clues to knowing what is at play and what is stated by them in Legislation, etc, as well. I know that Marks is playing it by there rules, but not everyone that joins here are on his level and it can be very draining dealing with the public, especially with so much going on at the moment. I am not here to cause trouble, but to be honest with myself and find true answers that can free Myself, my family/Friends and any of my brothers and sisters who are searching for a better way to operate in it. I have learned a lot from SE and am grateful for what it has provided. Every step I take, I feel I am becoming more aware of myself and where I am headed. Have you watched any of his videos?

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

Hi Ant I took a quick look at a 3 minute video of his ‘Success stories in Australia’ It mentioned David Wynn Miller. Mark had some dealings with that man and I can give you some information Mark shared if you would like to see it? I’m not sure if the man you are studying under worked with or learnt from David Wynn Miller (or used to as I believe he (DWM) is dead now).

[Ant_made]

He talks of another man (can’t remember his name) in one of his videos, who was trying the same thing, but because he put himself down as the beneficiary as well, he landed himself in jail. Man has substance and cannot enter this world of theirs and until you set up a Proxy to be the Attorney to the name. He talks about a Special Trust Deposit and something about The Token (BC Name) leads to nominal, which leads to Name Only, which equals Attorney.

[newguy1113]

I think you’re on the right path if you’re thinking of getting out completely, even if it’s empty handed and to be left alone and not bothered by these crooks. the entire system is fraudulent and some people don’t want to participate or enable this fraud. like you said it’s frustrating dealing with them. remaining honorable in the face of dishonorable thieves and frustratingly clueless public servants… in the ideal world the number of people who are aware could put an end to this crime if they weren’t so psychologically damaged to have this subconscious paralysing fear of authority. you can’t commit fraud and then threaten people, that alone should be cause for concern and action for a society with self-respecting men with dignity. I know people can get out, though I haven’t done it yet. because public and private do not mix, and they cannot compell you to perform without your consent and you’ve expressed your will and desire to terminate this feudal relationship with this de facto government or corporation/mafia whatever they are..for a de facto to exist their must be a de jure, if you make enough noise they’ll have to open the door eventually. and I think the most important thing is to TRULY KNOW THYSELF. that is the one thing no one can deny and no competence test or trickery can induce doubt or fear of these criminals…the way I see it, its total victory or total defeat, if youre scared go back into the matrix or do that secured party creditor stuff for the forseeable future…..anyway all the best and have no fear. they’re just like any other criminal, they have no standing and if they resort to doing criminal stuff to you, you also win cos then they will know theyre not upstanding citizens that they masquerade to be.

[Ant_made]

Thanks Brother (consanguinity),

We are all here for a reason and what you say, I feel the same. Freedom is not empty handed, as true control over one’s self is the Pot of Gold we search for. The fact that we need to play these games, record and catch them out, spells corruption. We have lost our way and no one wants to take accountability for their actions. Our word should be true as it can be. If our word or action hurts another, we are in the wrong, and all dignity and integrity can only be restored by ourself first and then asking for forgiveness from the one/s we have hurt. To continue on with a lie, will always be held against us, as there is only one true Judge in the end. All Wo/Men are equal on this Earth and it is not ours to own, control or profit from it. This is the time to let go of all the trinkets that keep us enslaved. By playing their game are we any better? It is not the fault of the Ignorant/Arrogant either, as the system has never shown full disclosure and stops us (the People that see) from helping them, by way of ridicule and ostracisation. For 50+ years this realm has robbed me and made me feel like a victim. I wanted compensation, but now I see it as another trap. I would like all of us to know what it means to be truly free and not on the back foot. Imagine the possibilities. Even if half of the people protesting the same, knew what we know (we still don’t know the full extent of this world), that would be the start of something special. We are more than what we know, that is one thing for sure.

I am a Man before any Name and Title. All Present and Accounted for, From Fertilisation, Until Last Breath. I wish to live as a Man of my word and my word to be my Bond. To be a Giver, not just a Taker. If I receive something Pure from another, it is my duty to share and to continue the Art of Giving. This is what Love is about.

Much love to all my Brothers and Sisters and thank you for being a witness to my transformation. I grow stronger everyday and know it is a path that has just begun.

Note: We are Mankind and Not the Human Race.

[newguy1113]

Amen to that.

Mankind will rise and overcome this evil that has lurked amongst us for centuries. I believe theres levels to this awakening process and in the fight against these frauds, we’re grateful to all those who risked everything to make everyone aware of its existence and the remedies provided… but they can only take us so far, its upto each wo/man depending on their principles to choose what they are willing to tolerate or not….what the whole “truth movement” is lacking are those who see this for what it truly is, a wicked crime perpertrated on all of mankind and not some educational/learning curve that you need to overccome, I find the idea of proving my competence to a bunch of crooks detestable…the awareness of it alone should be enough to put an end to it…anyway brother, Godspeed…

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

No I haven’t yet but when I have time I will definitely take a look.. They are probably quite long and involved and at the moment I am still going through Mark’s teachings and absorbing that so most of my time is spent transcribing his information. I would, and I am sure other members would, be interested to see what results you have with the process in this man’s videos if you decide to proceed with his process. It’s always good to keep an open mind for sure and the only way we can really know for sure if something works is to test it out for ourselves. One thing Mark said that helped him to keep learning when his matter didn’t go as planned, was to sit and figure out what part of the process he got wrong so that he kept being able to try different approaches when at first he didn’t get the results he wanted eg one time the judge asked him “What would you like me to do?” Mark told him what he would like him to do and he lost. He said he had to really wrack his brains to figure out what had gone wrong. He finally realised that by asking the judge to do something for him, he was now participating and the next time he went to court in answer to the judge he then said ‘You may do as you please, however do I not have an agreement and am I not entitled to receive the order?’ or words to that effect and this time he had success. So it’s a process of two steps forward and one back. It would be the same with any process. I like learning from Mark as he makes us aware of the pitfalls and how to deal with them when they crop up. Does this man also do that for his followers?

[Ant_made]

I have not purchased his package and that is why I ask here. In his videos he talks about Zoom meetings and also that if anyone uses his info to work it out by themselves, but come unstuck, they can purchase it and he will assist. Something of value something for something of value. He doesn’t expect anything for free, nor should anyone and offers only information to help get out of it. He says that his package has a step by step process to get out of the system, but if you are of greed, then you are not in the right place. I am interested in your opinion, other SE member’s and Mark’s. Vic seems to have been going at it as long as Mark has. He refers to Romley and others that have been fighting and trying to figure out the way around it. We all continue to learn, even Mentors. My concerns are that his videos are still on You Tube and why would the system allow that?

[yvie76]

Since I have been learning the SE processes, I have found the steps are very broad and when I have questioned something I feel like the response has not answered the question. Would be great if SE provided actual evidence for various processes whether it be video or written documents of actual cases that have won so we can get a better grasp on what needs to be applied. i.e Discharge Debt B.O.E process.

[Lee-kl]

Romley Stewart is amazing and what he has discovered in mind blowing but he does warn in this video link that you should have a really good think about going down the path he did as the last 15 years have been hell for him and his family. Lots of death threats. The thing is not to create debt and then you don’t have to worry about releasing any. Romley lives a simple life with no luxuries and debt free because he doesn’t create it. Friends of his have died, and or been locked up. Marks is safe and Marks sets them up to fail. Watch this latest video, there is part 1 and 2, part 2 Romley warns people not to do this, he still has to pay his bills such as rates and power bills just like everyone else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOuCZpONE2Q