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Best to address QRO, or SPER?
Hi Guys
I have another fine. Annoying but at the same time another opportunity to test what I’ve learnt so far.
I have the templates for the BOE and 3 step process from module 36. They are set out to address SPER. Would it be best not to respond to the Infringement notice and just wait until it goes to SPER, then begin this process with them?
Otherwise, I can address the Queensland revenue office for this infringement notice now.
Simon McKee is the commissioner of the QRO, as well as the Registrar of SPER.
If I am addressing QRO should I put their actual office as the address being 1 William street, brisbane, qld, 4000, or use the address listed on the back of the infringement, being GPO Box 1440, Brisbane, qld, 4001?thanks
Laura
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They can block me, i couldnt care less. laura, just pay the fine. these people on solutions empowerment will take more money off you than all govt depts combined. they will fill ur head with fancy words and “you are the power” speeches…..then when it comes down it……they wont be there to support you, they will leave you high and dry and spend your money. I strongly encourage you leave this site, pay the fine and keep ur head down. The corruption is more then you could imagine. its not worth it, and these ppl run off with ur money.
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I’m guessing “office found” should be sufficient to get them to address it in one of their many departments.
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Here’s some information that may help
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Use the street address as I believe P.O. boxes don’t form a contract.
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Office Found= it has to go to the correct office eg if it is meant to go to accounts
then it is their responsibility to make sure it gets there. (Then they can’t claim that it
didn’t get there because of your error)
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Here’s a testimony from another member. i thought you might find it of some use….
My partner and I have stopped all spers debts/fines by firstly calling sper and then proceed with the 3 step process. If you pay it straight off the bat then aren’t you admitting to the crime? So then they have you. So to use the BOE straight off the bat or any payment process you’re definitely admitting you committed the crime, I think that should be done when you have tried all other avenues such as the 3 step process and quote the constitution. I am pretty sure if your cars are registered under your business name you have to pay up so then of course you then use BOE, I would use a credit card it’s easier to get rid of. BUT! when my partner got a fine in his work ute, the boss sent in the stat dec and transferred the fine onto him, but because he is not a registered business, but an individual, we think that commercial law no longer applies, well that’s what we think because we got rid of that too. But Sper plays a trick on you I will explain at the end. So what we do is, I call sper and I ask to speak to the debt department, highest person up there, then I ask them if they, as a government body, can charge me excess fees under the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1901? They say yes, I say, oh really! Can you read that section out to me please I must have missed that part sorry? So again I say well under the COAC Act 1901, you cannot, as a government department, charge me excess fees. When I have finished filling them in and they know exactly what I am talking about for sure. Then I send the first notice and I have combined Mark’s with, “know your rights group” docs and I send those off in 7 working day time slots. After the last notice a week later we received back a doc from the commissioners office stating bla bla bla and we will no longer correspond with you in relation to this matter, or something to that affect. But then this is where sper plays the trick to make you think the notices didn’t work. Next min you receive a bigger bill with fees added on etc. they combined both of my fines so it was about $1600, and I ignored it because they told me there will no more correspondence in relation to this matter so I didn’t respond. That was around 4 months ago and my debt is gone. We did not lose any demerit points either. But if you choose to pay, I would pay it off with the credit card then get rid of that (the credit card) it’s easier than admitting to a crime and then trying to get out of it. Hope this helps. Oh and we have been doing this for over 3 years now. We never pay parking fines and I removed the bogus debt from Panthera debt collectors too that is super easy. But the debt seriously was not mine anyway. All using Mark’s 3 Step process is brilliant!! And the best part is you don’t have to worry about getting in trouble because you never make any claims ever. So Mark has it safe for us.
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Hi Morag.
They say mention they contacted SPER asking their questions and filling them in. They done this using marks 3 step processes. Do you know where the 3 step process they used might be? or if it is on SE’s website? Maybe in another module pack.Modules 36 and 3 only have the payment instruments. There is a folder titled “1NotProtest” to commonwealth bank in module 3. I could try and change these into one. However if there is a module or forum with the relevant 3 step process I’d prefer to start with that.
It would be good to find the “know your rights group”, do you know if they kept that group when they changed everything over? I can’t seem to search it.
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The best way I have found to learn the three step process is to complete (or download) one of the free non consent processes to the Government. https://solutionsempowerment.org/resources/non-consent/
solutionsempowerment.org
Non-consent Notice Generators – SolutionsEmpowerment.org
Non-consent Notice Generators – SolutionsEmpowerment.org
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Awesome, thank you again 🙂 I really appreciate it 😊 😊
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Module 19 Options to deal with Infringements has a three step process in it. Notice and Demand, Default Notice and Final Notice and lots more.
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Thanks Morag, these are great examples. It does make sense not to pay straight away with a payment method. Don’t admit fault.
Again thank you, I always appreciate your assistance on here
