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  • Got job (Casual Contract) – But they want our fingerprints

    Posted by CrownTonyMite on February 23, 2023 at 10:40 am

    Hi Crown(s);

    I just got a job (Casual Contract) – But they want our finger prints;

    QUOTE:

    “Re: Records of Attendance

    A condition of employment is the recording of your work attendance by finger scan time capturing units.

    By accepting and commencing employment with MCET, you provide your consent to the collection, use and storage of this personal and biometric health information by MCET as required. In general, MCET will not store images of fingerprints.

    These units use radio frequency technology in conjunction with a pattern recognition algorithm to produce a numerical template for the basis of authentication for time capturing.”

    I didn’t cross out/edit or negotiate that part of but signed;

    Principal and Executor – Crown in right

    Private-Member, Private-Person

    Acting for its Beneficiary through

    Tony MITE© (Ens-Legis)

    Without Dishonour -Vexation or Frivolity –

    Without prejudice – All Superior – indomitable-unalienable rights,

    dominion, powers, privileges, indemnities and immunities,

    whether actual, contingent,inherent or prospective: retained –

    Non assumpsit –

    I need to notice them now of Conditional Acceptance (at $230m part-thereof under PPSR/UCC-1 Lien/Copyright Act) and Religious/PMA/Trade-Union By-Law conflicts & breaches (I guess);

    They mights just say no thank you your employment contact is Terminated (as it is a Casual position);

    What would be the best angle with least friction/controversy?

    Regards;

    Private-Member;

    :Tony[Mite’].

    All Rights Reserved.

    • This discussion was modified 2 years, 4 months ago by  CrownTonyMite.
    anandrah replied 1 year, 11 months ago 3 Members · 15 Replies
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  • morag-janet-of-the-hill-family

    Member
    February 23, 2023 at 11:40 am

    The path of least resistance is to have a private meeting and ask pointed questions such as Do you stand under and recognise the Privacy Act? Do you stand by your code of conduct? Do you agree that if the gathering of information contravenes the privacy Act then it is not valid to make it a condition of employment? Do you understand anti discrimination legislation? etc and record the discussion. Take in evidence of case laws and Acts to support your position. Then you will have evidence of their wrongdoing and will be able to seek your remedy. Study this webinar http://solutionsempowerment.org/webinar-how-to-apply-set-up-questions-to-settle-any-matter-in-your-favour-win/ Another another alternative is to seek employment elsewhere where they are not practising discriminatory and invasive hiring procedures.

    Webinar: How To Apply Set Up Questions To Settle Any Matter In Your Favour & Win

  • CrownTonyMite

    Member
    February 23, 2023 at 11:46 am

    As Quoted;

    “…you provide your consent…”

    BY stating You that is not YOU!!! (i.e. i/we/us/our/ Principal-Executor; Crown in right;

    INCOME TAX ASSESSMENT ACT 1997 – SECT 4.5Meaning of you

    If a provision of this Act uses the expression you , it applies to entities generally, unless its application is expressly limited.

    Note 1: The expression you is not used in provisions that apply only to entities that are not individuals.

    Note 2: For circumstances in which the identity of an entity that is a managed investment scheme for the purposes of the Corporations Act 2001 is not affected by changes to the scheme, see Subdivision 960-E of the Income Tax (Transitional Provisions) Act 1997 .

    http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/itaa1997240/s4.5.html

    Religious Grounds sets them on the back-foot more so than Commercial Liens and Fee Schedules as far as I can tell;

    I’ll try and word up the Conditional Acceptance in Ecclesiastical form to sound ‘Religious’

    They also do have a ‘QR’ Back-Up process in case of fingerprint failure which I am happy to acquiesce to and they do have Photo-ID as well; (including a copy of our Drivers License);

    Regards;

    Private-Member;

    :Tony[Mite’].

    All Superior Rights Retained –

  • CrownTonyMite

    Member
    May 10, 2023 at 12:53 am

    Hi Crown;

    I just got a job – But they want our fingerprints;

    <font color=”#a64d79″>”Re: Records of Attendance
    A condition of employment is the recording of your work attendance by finger scan time capturing units.</font>

    <font color=”#a64d79″>By accepting and commencing employment with MCET, you provide your consent to the collection, use and storage of this personal and biometric health information by MCET as required. In general, MCET will not store images of fingerprints.</font>

    <font color=”#a64d79″>These units use radio frequency technology in conjunction with a pattern recognition algorithm to produce a numerical template for the basis of authentication for time capturing.”</font>

    I didn’t cross out/edit or negotiate that part of but signed Crown – All rights Reserved;

    I need to notice them now of Conditional Acceptance (at $230m part-thereof under PPSR Lien/Copyright Act) and Religious/PMA/Trade-Union By-Law conflicts & breaches (I guess);

    They mights just say no thank you your employment contract is Terminated (as it is a Casual position);

    What would be the best angle with least friction/controversy?

    Regards;

    Private-Member;
    :Tony[Mite’].

    . . .

    “Hi T,

    To support your request for an alternative scanning in process, can you please provide supporting documentation on why you are unable to use the finger scan machines?
    Can you send these through within the next 5 business days, and the sooner the better so we can sort this out?”

    Thank you

  • CrownTonyMite

    Member
    May 10, 2023 at 12:54 am

    <font color=”#741b47″>Hi L;</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif” color=”#741b47″>thanks for your response and conditionally accept your efforts to bring resolution;</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif” color=”#741b47″>We will get something to you – hopefully in the next couple days;</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″><font face=”arial, sans-serif”>Conditional Acceptance is i</font><font face=”arial, sans-serif”>n accordance with</font> U.C.c §1-308, PPSA and the Privacy Act 1988 (in particular; <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>6.88 (onwards); ‘Sensitive information’ i.e.: </font></font>racial/<wbr>ethnic origin; religious beliefs/affiliations; philosop<wbr>hical beliefs; membership to our professional-trade association/trade union <font color=”#741b47″>and biometric information</font> – as defined in the Privacy Act 1988);

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif” color=”#741b47″>and;</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>Within and under the International Protections and Immunities of the By-laws and policy of our Private-Membership within our Religious Organisation and <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>Trade Union (Private Members Association – PMA); indicate by- way-of Crown-Prerogative; For the Avoidance of Trespass on ‘Private’ Property controlled and owned by Crown in right; and for the Avoidance of Breach of 100% Security Interest in (Public) Trust and Copyright of Crown in right – </font></font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>Two hundred and thirty million Australian dollars (AU$230,000,000.00) on wind up payable on demand into account owned by the Crown a body corporate under Diplomatic Privileges and Immunities Act 1968 or Diplomatic Privileges (UPU) Order 1959 or Diplomatic Privileges (Common Fund for Commodities) Order 1983 -</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>and;</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>for any “Adverse Action”, intentionally or unintentionally, committed against Crown in right
    (Crown Proceedings Act S4; National Provident Fund Restructuring Act 1990; Crown Debts (Priorities) Act 1981)</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″ face=”arial, sans-serif”>Note:</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>“Law of Nations – Chapter III: of the Constitution of a State, and the Duties and Rights of the Nation in this respect.</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>#30. Of the support of the constitution and obedience to the laws.</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>The constitution and laws of a state are the basis of the public tranquillity, the firmest support of political authority, and a security for the liberty of the citizens. But this constitution is a vain phantom, and the best laws are useless, if they be not religiously observed: the nation ought then to watch very attentively, in order to render them equally respected by those who govern, and by the people destined to obey. To attack the constitution of a state, and to violate its laws, is a capital crime against society; and if those guilty of it are invested with authority. They add to this crime a perfidious abuse of the power with which they are intrusted. The nation ought constantly to repress them with its utmost vigour and vigilance, as the importance of the case requires. It is very uncommon to see the laws and constitution of a state openly and boldly opposed: it is against silent and gradual attacks that a nation ought to be particularly on its guard.” -</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>It would be considered a breach of international law to coerce one state to join or observe another state (‘foreign state interference’) – Whereby; “No state shall pass any law that impairs the obligation of contract (Social compact agreement);</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>and;</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif” color=”#741b47″>We are happy to accommodate for an alternative such as (but not limited to); the current ‘QR’ back-up system which is already in place if that can at all be arranged – otherwise please refer to our formal response which is in the pipeline but if this current response suffices to have something arranged and put in place; please let us know and we will forfeit any formalities should they become redundant;</font>

    If you have any further queries; we are happy to assist –

    Kindest Regards;

    Care of;

    :Crown-T.

    MCEC ID: 5676

    . . .

    <font color=”#741b47″>Hi L;</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif” color=”#741b47″>thanks for your response and conditionally accept your efforts to bring resolution;</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif” color=”#741b47″>We will get something to you – hopefully in the next couple days;</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″><font face=”arial, sans-serif”>Conditional Acceptance is i</font><font face=”arial, sans-serif”>n accordance with</font> U.C.c §1-308, PPSA and the Privacy Act 1988 (in particular; <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>6.88 (onwards); ‘Sensitive information’ i.e.: </font></font>racial/<wbr>ethnic origin; religious beliefs/affiliations; philosop<wbr>hical beliefs; membership to our professional-trade association/trade union <font color=”#741b47″>and biometric information</font> – as defined in the Privacy Act 1988);

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif” color=”#741b47″>and;</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>Within and under the International Protections and Immunities of the By-laws and policy of our Private-Membership within our Religious Organisation and <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>Trade Union (Private Members Association – PMA); indicate by- way-of Crown-Prerogative; For the Avoidance of Trespass on ‘Private’ Property controlled and owned by Crown in right; and for the Avoidance of Breach of 100% Security Interest in (Public) Trust and Copyright of Crown in right – </font></font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>Two hundred and thirty million Australian dollars (AU$230,000,000.00) on wind up payable on demand into account owned by the Crown a body corporate under Diplomatic Privileges and Immunities Act 1968 or Diplomatic Privileges (UPU) Order 1959 or Diplomatic Privileges (Common Fund for Commodities) Order 1983 -</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>and;</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>for any “Adverse Action”, intentionally or unintentionally, committed against Crown in right
    (Crown Proceedings Act S4; National Provident Fund Restructuring Act 1990; Crown Debts (Priorities) Act 1981)</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″ face=”arial, sans-serif”>Note:</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>“Law of Nations – Chapter III: of the Constitution of a State, and the Duties and Rights of the Nation in this respect.</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>#30. Of the support of the constitution and obedience to the laws.</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>The constitution and laws of a state are the basis of the public tranquillity, the firmest support of political authority, and a security for the liberty of the citizens. But this constitution is a vain phantom, and the best laws are useless, if they be not religiously observed: the nation ought then to watch very attentively, in order to render them equally respected by those who govern, and by the people destined to obey. To attack the constitution of a state, and to violate its laws, is a capital crime against society; and if those guilty of it are invested with authority. They add to this crime a perfidious abuse of the power with which they are intrusted. The nation ought constantly to repress them with its utmost vigour and vigilance, as the importance of the case requires. It is very uncommon to see the laws and constitution of a state openly and boldly opposed: it is against silent and gradual attacks that a nation ought to be particularly on its guard.” -</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif”>It would be considered a breach of international law to coerce one state to join or observe another state (‘foreign state interference’) – Whereby; “No state shall pass any law that impairs the obligation of contract (Social compact agreement);</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>and;</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif” color=”#741b47″>We are happy to accommodate for an alternative such as (but not limited to); the current ‘QR’ back-up system which is already in place if that can at all be arranged – otherwise please refer to our formal response which is in the pipeline but if this current response suffices to have something arranged and put in place; please let us know and we will forfeit any formalities should they become redundant;</font>

    If you have any further queries; we are happy to assist –

    Kindest Regards;

    Care of;

    :Crown-T.

    MCEC ID: 5676


  • CrownTonyMite

    Member
    May 10, 2023 at 1:24 am
  • CrownTonyMite

    Member
    May 10, 2023 at 1:25 am

    Hi T,

    To support your request for an alternative scanning in process, can you please provide supporting documentation on why you are unable to use the finger scan machines?
    Can you send these through within the next 5 business days, and the sooner the better so we can sort this out?

    Thank you

    . . .

    Hi T,

    Here is a copy of MCEC’s Privacy Statement. I hope this addresses any concerns you may have around using the finger scanners.

    Cheers

    . . .

    Hi T,

    Thanks for your email.

    The MCEC Privacy Statement addresses the concerns raised in your previous email and explains how your information is used.

    We are happy to provide you a further 3 business days to read the Privacy Statement and raise any further questions you may have.

    After those 3 business days, it is expected, as per the contract you have signed, that you will follow the process to clock your time at MCEC.

    If you choose not to use the finger scanner as per the policy, it will be assumed you are not making yourself available, and you may be terminated if that time exceeds 8 weeks, as per clause 22 in the MCET Agreement 2022.

    Thanks,

    . . .

    Thanks L;

    Not exactly sure of what exactly to do with the attached ‘MCEC Privacy Statement’ – as we have addressed all of matters pertainant in our ‘Notice of Conditional Acceptance, Notice and Demand for Further and Better Particulars and Notice of Liability’

    Re: Biometric finger scan time capturing –

    Our Ref: MECC280423-01

    Please let us know how we can further assist?

    Kindest Regards;

    Care of;

    :Crown-T.

    MCEC ID: 5676

  • morag-janet-of-the-hill-family

    Member
    May 10, 2023 at 5:19 am

    There is a Q and A tonight Wednesday where you can ask this question of
    Mark, he can probably tell you some possible ways to approach of this sort of
    action. RSVP here https://solutionsempowerment.org/event/general-qa-may-10/

    General Q&A: May 10

  • morag-janet-of-the-hill-family

    Member
    May 10, 2023 at 5:41 am
  • CrownTonyMite

    Member
    May 24, 2023 at 2:05 pm

    <font color=”#741b47″>After our Response (as follows): RE: </font>Our Ref/Proof of Acceptance: MECC120523-01/RPP44 637000 51001 32190 36601/RPP44 63700 51001 41565 94605/RR160532239AU/<wbr>RR160271290AU

    <font color=”#741b47″>Hi L’y;</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif” color=”#741b47″>thank you again for your thoughtful email response and acknowledging you have received my Notice of Conditional</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif” color=”#741b47″>Acceptance and for your continual efforts to bring resolution to this matter;</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif” color=”#741b47″>just to clarify, break and rebut any presumptions that we choose not to use the finger scanner as per the policy and; will be assumed we are not making ourselves available, with premise we ‘may’ be terminated – however;</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif” color=”#741b47″>The Incumbent Office Held of Accountable Authority at Melbourne Convention and Exhibition Trust (MCEC) still have not answered the questions in our Notice and as we have stated in our </font>Notice that; ‘

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif” color=”#741b47″>Th refusal, failure or neglect to reply to and answer our Notice is tantamount to their agreement to our notice and that if they themselves elected not to reply to our Notice, they themselves have accepted and agreed to the various stipulations made within our Notice, and; that only a reply that meets the following criteria qualifies as a </font>proper and verified reply in that;

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif” color=”#741b47″>It must be supported by an affidavit with full legible name, title and wet ink signature and address for service, sign and sworn or affirmed by any claimant as being true, correct, complete, certain and not intended to mislead and under the claimants full commercial liability and penalty for perjury and must answer each of the points indicated; therefore;</font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif” color=”#741b47″>For your reference; please find attached in this email;</font>

    As Good As Aval

    Document List

    1. Exhibit “Notice of Conditional Acceptance, Notice and Demand for Further and Better Particulars and Notice of Liability”

    Proof of Acceptance: RPP44 637000 51001 32190 36601/RPP44 63700 51001 41565 94605/RR160532239AU/RR16027129<wbr>0AU; –

    2. MCEC_EBA_New_Starters_<wbr>Paperwork_Tony_Mitevski

    3. INDEMNITY-ASSURANCE-POLICY (Melbourne Convention and Exhibition Trust)

    4. “P.P.TM-01”, being a true and correct copy of the Certificate of Mailing and being a true and correct copy of proof of delivery of

    registered post mail envelope of “Notice of Conditional Acceptance, Notice and Demand for Further and Better Particulars and Notice of

    Liability”

    <font face=”Calibri” color=”#741b47″>And please Note that via;</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>INDEMNITY-ASSURANCE-POLICY (MECE) IAP-MECE-11-05-2023 – that;</font><font color=”#63032b” face=”Calibri”>
    </font>

    The Incumbent/s in Office at the Melbourne Convention and Exhibition Trust are herein indemnified of any liability for conformation

    of the honourable discharge of their obligation/s to the estate of Tony MITEVSKI and its undersigned Authorised Representative; and;

    Tony MITEVSK and this indemnity assurance policy and any other relevant derivative account/s are surrendered as surety for the indemnity of the Incumbent/s in Office at the Melbourne Convention and

    Exhibition Trust in confirmation of the honourable discharge of their obligation/s to the estate of Tony MITEVSKI, and its undersigned Authorised Representative; and;

    Again – that we are willing to accommodate for an alternative such as (but not limited to); the current “TSD Digital sign-in” which is already in place if that can at all be arranged – otherwise please refer to our formal response (attached);

    <font color=”#550055″>If you have any further queries; we are happy to assist –
    </font>

    <font face=”arial, sans-serif” color=”#741b47″>We hereby humbly thank you in advance for your prompt reply addressing this matter; and; </font>

    we respectfully await your proper and verified reply;

    <font color=”#550055″>

    <font color=”#741b47″>Kindest Regards;</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>Care of;</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>:Crown-Tony[Mite’].</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>MCEC ID: XXXX</font>

    </font>

    Kindest Regards;

    . . .

    Subject:

    RE: Finger scan info (Just got a job – But they want our fingerprints -)

    Hi T,

    I hope you’re well.

    Locky has passed on this email, thank you for sending this through. I am looping in Sukhmeet as well, for convenience.

    My understanding from Locky is that you are claiming religious exemption from finger scanning. The document you shared was not clear on the basis of the religious exemption and spoke to our privacy policy.

    For clarity, could you please respond to the below 2 questions, preferably by email, by end of this week.

    What is the religion you subscribe to? ( from looking at the document and google searches, it seems to be Christianity, is that right?)

    What aspect of the religion (e.g., religious text, teachings, religious practices etc.) prevent you from using the finger scanner to scan into work. If there is a reference or a link, please include the reference or link. (e.g., if you were to refer to a passage in the Quaran regarding not eating Pork, you can note the passage i.e., Quaran 2:173.)

    For clarity and shared understanding, we are confident that the fingerscanning process meets all Australian legislation and our policies with regards to privacy and use of your information. We are also confident that the original contract signed by you had the terms of fingerscanning spelled out, and not crossed out by you.

    If you have any questions or concerns, please don’t hesitate to reach out.

    Thanks,

    M.

  • CrownTonyMite

    Member
    May 24, 2023 at 2:11 pm

    once noticed Elvis wearing a Star of David (the symbol of Judaism) and a Christian cross necklace, asking if that was “kind of a contradiction.” Elvis, who was always reading about multiple spiritual beliefs, answered, “I don’t want to miss heaven on a technicality.”

    https://medium.com/narrative/the-faith-of-elvis-he-became-the-kings-kid-brother-2c00d1f396c3

  • CrownTonyMite

    Member
    May 24, 2023 at 5:05 pm

    After sending the following;

    RE: Our Ref/Proof of Acceptance: MECC120523-01/RPP44 637000 51001 32190 36601/RPP44 63700 51001 41565 94605/RR160532239AU/RR160271290AU

    Hi L’;

    thank you again for your thoughtful email response and acknowledging you have received my Notice of Conditional

    Acceptance and for your continual efforts to bring resolution to this matter;

    just to clarify, break and rebut any presumptions that we choose not to use the finger scanner as per the policy and; will be assumed we are not making ourselves available, with premise we ‘may’ be terminated – however;

    The Incumbent Office Held of Accountable Authority at Melbourne Convention and Exhibition Trust (MCEC) still have not answered the questions in our Notice and as we have stated in our Notice that; ‘

    Th refusal, failure or neglect to reply to and answer our Notice is tantamount to their agreement to our notice and that if they themselves elected not to reply to our Notice, they themselves have accepted and agreed to the various stipulations made within our Notice, and; that only a reply that meets the following criteria qualifies as a proper and verified reply in that;

    It must be supported by an affidavit with full legible name, title and wet ink signature and address for service, sign and sworn or affirmed by any claimant as being true, correct, complete, certain and not intended to mislead and under the claimants full commercial liability and penalty for perjury and must answer each of the points indicated; therefore;

    For your reference; please find attached in this email;

    As Good As Aval

    Document List

    1. Exhibit “Notice of Conditional Acceptance, Notice and Demand for Further and Better Particulars and Notice of Liability”

    Proof of Acceptance: RPP44 637000 51001 32190 36601/RPP44 63700 51001 41565 94605/RR160532239AU/RR160271290AU; –

    2. MCEC_EBA_New_Starters_Paperwork_Tony_Mitevski

    3. INDEMNITY-ASSURANCE-POLICY (Melbourne Convention and Exhibition Trust)

    4. “P.P.TM-01”, being a true and correct copy of the Certificate of Mailing and being a true and correct copy of proof of delivery of

    registered post mail envelope of “Notice of Conditional Acceptance, Notice and Demand for Further and Better Particulars and Notice of

    Liability”

    And please Note that via;

    INDEMNITY-ASSURANCE-POLICY (MECE) IAP-MECE-11-05-2023 – that;

    The Incumbent/s in Office at the Melbourne Convention and Exhibition Trust are herein indemnified of any liability for conformation

    of the honourable discharge of their obligation/s to the estate of Tony MITEVSKI and its undersigned Authorised Representative; and;

    Tony MITEVSK and this indemnity assurance policy and any other relevant derivative account/s are surrendered as surety for the indemnity of the Incumbent/s in Office at the Melbourne Convention and

    Exhibition Trust in confirmation of the honourable discharge of their obligation/s to the estate of Tony MITEVSKI, and its undersigned Authorised Representative; and;

    Again – that we are willing to accommodate for an alternative such as (but not limited to); the current “TSD Digital sign-in” which is already in place if that can at all be arranged – otherwise please refer to our formal response (attached);

    If you have any further queries; we are happy to assist –

    We hereby humbly thank you in advance for your prompt reply addressing this matter; and;

    we respectfully await your proper and verified reply;

    Kindest Regards;

    Care of;

    :Crown-Tony[Mite’].

    MCEC ID: XXXX

  • CrownTonyMite

    Member
    June 4, 2023 at 2:01 pm

    Greetings Folks;

    I received the following;

    RE: Finger scan info: Hi Tony,

    Thank you for your reply.

    You started with us on 13/02/2023. Please see attached the email we received from you with the signed contract, which included the details of fingerprint scanning. These had not been crossed out.

    You attended a shift on 22/02/2023 for your induction.

    Since then, you have not provided us with your availability for more shifts. You have also requested an exemption from finger scanning, based on your religious beliefs.

    MCEC has requested you for information outlining the basis of this exemption, in order to make a determination.

    We have communicated with you that the finger scanning process is the standard way in which we register attendance, and we are confident that it meets our policies on managing private information. We have also communicated that, once we have the information outlining the basis of the religious exemption, we are happy to accommodate the request to use a non-standard process for registering your attendance. We have also accepted that you want this process resolved, and hence have not terminated your employment under clause 22.8 in the MCET EBA, detailing 8-week availability.

    You have sent us documents in response to this request via multiple channels.

    Whilst we appreciate you sending through the documents you have; it is still unclear about the religious exemption you are seeking to not use the finger scanner at MCEC as none of the documents provided contain the requested information that can assist us in assessing the religious exemption.

    In the interest of clarity, to review your religious exemption, we have requested the following information:

    What is the religion you subscribe to? ( from looking at the document and google searches, it seems to be Christianity, is that right?)

    What aspect of the religion (e.g., religious text, teachings, religious practices etc.) prevent you from using the finger scanner to scan into work. If there is a reference or a link, please include the reference or link. (just as an example, if you were to refer to a passage in the Quaran regarding not eating Pork, you can note the passage from the text.)

    Despite the multiple follow-ups, we do not have this information since it was requested in April.

    Therefore, we are directing you to make yourself available to be rostered for shifts, and to clock in and out using the finger scanner.

    If you are unwilling to offer your availability, and clock your time using the finger scanner, we will be unable to roster you shifts, and your employment may be terminated as per clause 22.8 in the MCET EBA, detailing 8-week availability, should you meet the clause requirements.

    I want to note that MCEC is open to considering the religious exemption at any time if you provide the relevant information.

    Kind regards,

    M

    From: No-Name No-Person <tonymite@gmail.com>

    Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 2:46 PM

    To: M

    Subject: Fwd: Finger scan info

    RE: Our Ref/Proof of Acceptance: MECC120523-01/RPP44 637000 51001 32190 36601/RPP44 63700 51001 41565 94605/RR160532239AU/RR160271290AU

    Hi M

    in relation to your email;

    From: M Cu <mc@mcec.com.au>

    Date: Mon, May 22, 2023 at 3:06 PM

    Subject: RE: Finger scan info

    To: No-Name No-Person <tonymite@gmail.com>

    The Incumbent Office Held of Accountable Authority at Melbourne Convention and Exhibition Trust (MCEC) still have not answered the questions in our Notice and as we have stated in our Notice that; ‘

    Th refusal, failure or neglect to reply to and answer our Notice is tantamount to their agreement to our notice and that if they themselves elected not to reply to our Notice, they themselves have accepted and agreed to the various stipulations made within our Notice, and; that only a reply that meets the following criteria qualifies as a proper and verified reply in that;

    It must be supported by an affidavit with full legible name, title and wet ink signature and address for service, sign and sworn or affirmed by any claimant as being true, correct, complete, certain and not intended to mislead and under the claimants full commercial liability and penalty for perjury and must answer each of the points indicated; therefore;

    and;

    in relation to the following

    For your reference; please find attached in this email;

    As Good As Aval

    Document List

    1. Exhibit “Notice of Conditional Acceptance, Notice and Demand for Further and Better Particulars and Notice of Liability”

    Proof of Acceptance: RPP44 637000 51001 32190 36601/RPP44 63700 51001 41565 94605/RR160532239AU/RR160271290AU; –

    2. MCEC_EBA_New_Starters_Paperwork_Tony_Mitevski

    3. INDEMNITY-ASSURANCE-POLICY (Melbourne Convention and Exhibition Trust)

    4. “P.P.TM-01”, being a true and correct copy of the Certificate of Mailing and being a true and correct copy of proof of delivery of

    registered post mail envelope of “Notice of Conditional Acceptance, Notice and Demand for Further and Better Particulars and Notice of

    Liability”

    5. Notice of Ministries, International Diplomatic and Ecclesiastical Protections and Immunities (Summer Healing PCA PMA)

    And please Note that via;

    INDEMNITY-ASSURANCE-POLICY (MECE) IAP-MECE-11-05-2023 – that;

    The Incumbent/s in Office at the Melbourne Convention and Exhibition Trust are herein indemnified of any liability for conformation

    of the honourable discharge of their obligation/s to the estate of Tony MITEVSKI and its undersigned Authorised Representative; and;

    Tony MITEVSK and this indemnity assurance policy and any other relevant derivative account/s are surrendered as surety for the indemnity of the Incumbent/s in Office at the Melbourne Convention and

    Exhibition Trust in confirmation of the honourable discharge of their obligation/s to the estate of Tony MITEVSKI, and its undersigned Authorised Representative; and;

    Again – that we are willing to accommodate for an alternative such as (but not limited to); the current “TSD Digital sign-in” which is already in place if that can at all be arranged – otherwise please refer to our formal response (attached);

    If you have any further queries; we are happy to assist –

    We hereby humbly thank you in advance for your prompt reply addressing this matter; and;

    we respectfully await your proper and verified reply;

    Kindest Regards;

    Care of;

    :Crown-Tony[Mitevski].

    MCEC ID: 5676

    Kindest Regards;

    AndonisKruna, [2/06/2023 1:15 PM]

    Finger scan info

    No-Name No-Person <tonymite@gmail.com> Wed, May 31, 2023 at 2:51 PM

    To: m

    Bcc: S

    . . .

    : Addendum:

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    https://medium.com/narrative/the-faith-of-elvis-he-became-the-kings-kid-brother-2c00d1f396c3

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    : Addendum:

  • CrownTonyMite

    Member
    July 25, 2023 at 11:04 am

    Just got he following from MEAA Union Representative RE: Employment Finger-Print Scan: Phone Call Debrief
    Inbox

    Sukhmeet Grewal
    10:28 AM (23 minutes ago)
    to me

    Hi Tony,

    I hope this email finds you well !

    Sending this email to debrief our phone call from earlier today.

    As discussed, it’s clear that MCEC won’t be willing to accommodate your request of not using the Finger Print Scanner, regardless of the multitude of reasons that have been provided to them.

    Further, from the Union’s perspective, we can continue to help out by attending any meetings between yourself and MCEC/MCET, or reaching out to MCEC/MCET Management Reps.

    Thanks,

    Sukhmeet Singh Grewal (he/him)

    Organiser

    ECS

    On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 12:00 PM No-Name No-Person <tonymite@gmail.com> wrote:

    <font color=”#741b47″>RE: employer has deficiently caused default by silent acquiescence after being given 14 days (First Notice) to reply to and answer our Notice of Conditional Acceptance – Can I automatically file Affidavit of Default Judgement after my ‘first’ (and final notice) – and; in the interim file for Default Judgement at County/Supreme Court for Default Judgement ?</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>Dear Crown/s;</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>my employer has deficiently caused default by silent acquiescence after being given 14 days (First Notice) to reply to and answer our Notice of Conditional Acceptance -</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>
    The refusal, failure or neglect to reply to and answer our Notice is tantamount to their agreement to our notice and that if they themselves elected not to reply to our Notice, they themselves have accepted and agreed to the various stipulations made within our Notice, and; that only a reply that meets the following criteria qualifies as a proper and verified reply in that; </font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>It must be supported by an affidavit with full legible name, title and wet ink signature and address for service, sign and sworn or affirmed by any claimant as being true, correct, complete, certain and not intended to mislead and under the claimants full commercial liability and penalty for perjury and must answer each of the points indicated; therefore;</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>Q) Can I now send them an Affidavit of Default Judgement after my ‘first’ (and final notice) or is it procedural to execute three (3) Notices (First Notice Conditional Acceptance and two (2) following letters of of default – BEFORE – sending through the Affidavit of Default Judgement to the employer -</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>and;</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>
    Can I in the interim file for Default Judgement at County/Supreme Court for Default Judgement (either proceeding with Application for a New complaint – OR – Requisitioning an Order be carried out Ex-Parte)?</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>and;</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>I have the same scenario with the retirement village where my relative is at RE: Notice of conditional acceptance and
    liability for “Covid 19” testing, wearing a mask, vaccinations and travelling freely (?) – as they are STILL compelling me to RAT – Test and wear Face Mask (even with medical exemption);</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>
    Your valuable and timely attention in overseeing my query is sought and sincerely appreciated;</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>Thanking you kindly in anticipation of your prompt attention and assistance in this matter -</font>

    <font color=”#741b47″>: Crown.</font>

    <font size=”1″>Without Dishonour -Vexation or Frivolity –</font>

    <font size=”1″>Without prejudice – All Superior – indomitable-unalienable <wbr>rights, dominion, powers, privileges,</font>

    <font size=”1″>indemnities and immunities, whether actual, contingent,inherent or prospective: retained – Non assumpsit –</font>

    <font size=”1″>Pursuant to the Crown Proceedings Act 1988 s (4) -U.C.c §1-308 and the Privacy Act 1988</font>

  • morag-janet-of-the-hill-family

    Member
    July 25, 2023 at 12:34 pm

    When you create an agreement with them (through a three step notice with affidavit) remember to include a default and liability clause in the conditional acceptance, then when they default for the third time this enables you to send them an invoice for damaging you (if you want and/or need to).

  • anandrah

    Member
    July 25, 2023 at 4:18 pm

    Say your fingerprints are your intellectual property and your terms and conditions (they have T & C – so do you!) state a service fee to have a licence to access your intellectual property must be paid. Best to saythat in writing.

    They will reply, well no fingerprints no membership. Then ask (in writing) is there legislation that compels me to provide them? They will say, no its just our policy. Then say, could I sue you for discrimination if you refused my membership based on your refusal to pay to licence my property and instead ddeman it for free?