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  • morag-janet-of-the-hill-family

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    February 11, 2023 at 4:17 pm

    I agree with a lot of what he says because of study and practical application I have done but the only way to verify what this guy is saying about growing plants and using vortexes etc is to do it and see what happens. He is making some very big claims here, that would need to be explored rather than just taking him at his word. When he says nature will look after you if you work in harmony with nature, well, tell that to a mouse that is being swallowed live by a hawk. As you know I am a big believer in connecting with the earth’s energy as I have personal experience with the amazing health benefits that come from doing so with an earthing mat on the bed and walking barefoot on the grass whenever it is practical to do so. I think his information is great if it helps people. As for using a copper coil to enhance plant growth, the length of the coil determines the vibration level/resonance frequency and the effect of that vibration (it can also vibrate in sympathy with emfs and/or radio transmitters,power lines all depending on length) and he doesn’t specify measurements to use so it could also be possible to effect plants detrimentally if the frequency produced by the coil wasn’t at the optimum level. The emfs etc can add energy to the plants and this can be one explanation for accelerated growth. There is a whole raft of variables that can interact with the copper including what is in the soil it is planted in. To do an experiment with it you would have to have specific measurements to use to enable you to make solid conclusions. He also seems to only talk about one variable when it comes to cultivating plants with tools and that is iron v copper. When any area is raising crops there would be many many other variables that could come into play. How would one get copper implements to use? I’ve seen people use copper bracelets before when I was in my teens for arthritis and they seemed to get a black coating on their skin from the copper. Victor Shauberger only invented flying saucers in theory, he never actually produced a flying saucer. The salmon are not levitating and there are explanations in physics for what is happening when they spin out of the water to gain momentum. Additionally I think we have to be very careful when it comes to seeing plants as food. I know from personal experience the natural chemicals in plants and the fibre can cause havoc in our bodies especially over time as we get older. This guy is still young and when I watch people who live mainly on veggies as they age they tend to get very wrinkly and their hair goes white and they start to look emaciated including my father. I’ve seen this happen to many people who preach vegetables as life giving and nourishing. I used to preach from that same bible and in the end I got very ill from eating predominantly vegetables. We no longer eat greens and we are very selective about the plants we do ingest. We only eat fruits such as tomatoes and fruit from trees. I grew cucumbers for the first time this year but noticed when eaten that they produced heaps of wind/gas and bloating so I will not be growing them again. We use onions in very small amounts and we fry them in butter first and this caramelises them and makes them more palatable. We no longer crave potatoes. All of the fruits we do eat, are also seasonal and so we cannot use them as a food source all year round, I see them as very much just either subsistence food when meat is not available or providing a little variety to the diet. They definitely do NOT sustain us.. The bulk of our food is now meat and fat and animal products which are available all year and we can buy it from farmers and raise some ourselves. Even when we were in the city with a small back yard, we had two hens in a very small space and they were happy and provided us with eggs. Since we have been relying on mainly animal sources for our nourishment we have gone from strength to strength in terms of muscle mass and vibrant energy. I agree that we have been disconnected from what is good for us and there is always a concerted campaign against meat eating, especially raw meat and eggs and organs of the animals. The organs are power packed with nutrients and are the real super foods we need to eat. If you go to the grocery shop you will see meat is so expensive now as well as milk, eggs, butter and cheese, lard is also very expensive and hard to find it its purest form. These are all foods that provide amazing nutrients that feed the brain and body and are ideal for health and vitality. They have switched that factual information to make us believe plants contain amazing nutrients, are ‘superfoods’ and they are promoted continuously. Humans digestive systems have to work extremely hard to extract any nutrients from veggies and the fibre can cause incredible damage in the gut and bowel, we are not made to digest them, we have hydrochloric acid in our guts which is great for breaking down raw meat not fibre. Plants are a great food source for ruminant animals as these animals have the correct digestive system and bacteria in their stomachs to break down the veggies and animals convert it into meat and fat which is the optimal diet for carnivores such as ourselves (being apex predators not vege eating animals such as sheep) Eating mainly meat and animal products is such a relief because all of the work one needs to do to try to produce a healthy garden (no such thing really because of the detrimental effects of plants on men and women) and everything that goes with that is no longer needed and it is so easy to get optimum health from the freezer. Some people hunt and fish but we save and buy from farmers. I have fun growing tomatoes and I’m having a go at growing a tamarillo tree and other fruit trees but that is mimimal and we are not reliant on that stuff.

    Salt lamps can absorb emfs and re emit them and we know this because we went to a friends to test for and find out where the negative fields were in his house and lots were coming from his salt lamp so crystals can be dangerous if you are not aware of what they are emitting or re emitting. What he says about 432 hz is correct as well and I used to use that frequency when teaching music and having concerts and I required my students to tune their instruments to 432 hz which is a healing frequency and very close to the Schumann resonance which is the same as the earth’s energy pulse. I personally have never seen anyone levitate and when they promised people back in the 80’s that transcendental meditation would allow you to levitate it was a lie. The people who did it were taught to bounce on a foam mattress with their legs crossed and take photos of themselves in the air and then claim they were levitating. I had a flatmate who was into it and we used to hear a banging sound coming from his room and that was the sound of him bouncing on the mattress. We were never allowed in to watch him because we would have seen the lie and it came out later that the whole thing was a hoax.

    I can almost guarantee that if people go on the regimen (buying his products) that he is recommending , it would be a very expensive and ongoing cost. I have seen many many products claiming to have almost super powers for healing etc and they are always prohibitively expensive (unless you have a large income) and they tend to make one dependent on them for good health. Whereas natural food from animals can be hunted or grown or bought and are very cost effective if you buy in bulk from a farmer. 1 beast can last over a year and costs about $2,000 which works out to about $38 per week less if it lasts more than 1 year. Staying healthy is so much simpler than people realise. Earthing mat (a one off expense) to get rid of inflammation and promote fast healing, Balance Walker foot supports (a one off expense) to make sure you can work hard, lift and carry and sit for hours at the computer safely without pulling any muscles or developing hunched shoulders etc (you can also earth yourself while at the computer) and organ meats and fat for real superfoods with all of the nutrients your body needs. Chooks in the back yard for healthy eggs. Buying cream and butter and cheese for extra fat. Done!!

    • Ant_made

      Member
      February 11, 2023 at 7:28 pm

      Yeah I would not buy the products, but I found some interesting things to try. 2 months ago i put a copper coil stick into two pots that were struggling and they have bounce. Maybe because I am giving them more attention. Last night I made a copper wristband, wore it to bed and woke up feeling better than usual. It could be a placebo effect, but I will give it a trial and see how it goes. I have also been drinking out of a copper goblet and letting the water sit in for a bit. I also wouldn’t mind putting the moon phase theory to the test.

      Energy and flow and I always think of Japanese gardens, the shaping of the trees in the streets and even their rice fields amongst the buildings in the cities, thriving and maximising the area. it still blows me out on the bullet train……building, building, building, rice field, building, building. Volcanic energy and natural springs, probably pay a big part into it. Like NZ, good water from the mountains.

  • morag-janet-of-the-hill-family

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    February 12, 2023 at 9:07 am

    I’d be interested for you to keep us updated on your results. You’re right about NZ water, we live in a rural area and friends of ours live near a stream that comes from the mountains and it is full of yabbies, which we don’t see in the streams further down that have all the pollution poured into them from industry. When I was very young (in the 60s) the creek near our house in a small town was also full of yabbies, my older brother used to bring them home in a bucket. There aren’t any yabbies in that creek now, instead it has foam floating on it.

    • Ant_made

      Member
      February 12, 2023 at 10:44 am

      Will do. I had two different sizes and the little one was not as good. I did it that size due to the plant size. I might have to turn this into a control experiment. You are so right with the digestive system and what our gut can break down, insects are not apart of it (WEF has other ideas) and not all produce available at our beck and call. Basics, balance, seasonal and local produce is what we need to get back to. Also what is commercially grown, has no substance as it lace with chemicals that have destroyed the natural minerals and salts and also bond with our cells inside us. Tomatoes from Woolworths/Coles has no flavour, but Jimmy my Greek mate has the best cheery tomatoes. Last year he grew 4 trees for about 9 months and produced a lot of fruit. He would give me a container and I would eat most of them on the drive home, they are that good. There is a Japanese Scientist who grew one cherry tomato plant in a shopping mall for 18 months. Using only filter sunlight, in a pressurised room and it produce something like (from memory) 15,000 tomatoes all the size of baseballs.

      A couple of years back I made terrariums for Xmas presents. The ones that survived, were put in the right spot and left alone. The others moved them constantly and they died. I found filtered light was the best for them as well.

  • morag-janet-of-the-hill-family

    Member
    February 12, 2023 at 11:57 am

    Wow that’s a lot of tomatoes, I wish I was having that same success, however it’s the first year I am growing them, so I’m just happy I got something lol. Can you give me the dimensions of the copper and stick you are using that worked well? I’m so happy the internet exists if it wasn’t for that I wouldn’t have come across some of the valuable information that has literally changed my life for the better.

    • Ant_made

      Member
      February 12, 2023 at 8:41 pm

      I used 1mm electrical wire from some scrap, wrapped around a spear like oak stick that is around 450mm (H) and 10mmx19mm Thick. The other was 250 in height. Im going try different heights and extra wires.

    • Ant_made

      Member
      February 12, 2023 at 8:45 pm

      There are some good ideas out there. I’ve been looking at free energy devices, using the magnets with motors. Some you wonder if they work or not. Check this one out.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnAE0hqgH6Y&t=24s

      • Ant_made

        Member
        February 12, 2023 at 8:51 pm

        Things like this and engines that run on water, should be enough for people to realise the world is a con. If they can lie about free clean energy, they certainly can lie about safe vaccines and pharmaceuticals.

        • morag-janet-of-the-hill-family

          Member
          February 13, 2023 at 10:44 am

          Hi Ant this guy says himself it only produces 20w of power and that at best will run a few LEDs also this is not free energy because it has to have input to get it started. The way it works is the spinning magnets power the engine in pulses which sends short bursts of energy to the wheel (these pulses continually go back and forth) which will keep it spinning until the friction slows it down and stops it. At which time it would need some one to pull start it again. It also has angular momentum which will keep it spinning for a bit longer. The implements he hooked up to it require at least 600w of power so he is conning people. unfortunately it will only work with very small things such as a light bulb or leds.

          • Ant_made

            Member
            February 13, 2023 at 12:28 pm

            It look leafy at the set up at the end. Probably running a cable. I will stop welding now….next. Lol.

            • morag-janet-of-the-hill-family

              Member
              February 13, 2023 at 1:02 pm

              Yeah if you listen at the 30 min mark you can hear something running and it isn’t the water pump as that sort of pump doesn’t make that pulsing sound. I agree; Next!