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  • morag-janet-of-the-hill-family

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    May 13, 2024 at 4:48 pm

    Here’s a comment from a discussion about whether the earth is flat.

    Earth is absolutely not flat. Here is a list of reasons I have compiled, while not complete, I’m still adding proofs, it is factual instead of belief based.

    1.

    The sun actually sets, it goes below the horizon, and if the earth is flat then the whole earth would have night at the same time. That doesn’t happen. I’ve taken pictures to prove to myself that the sun is the same size all the time. If it changed size, that would mean it is small and/or close to earth. It is not, it stays the same size at noon and later afternoon. That means the sun is far away and that means if the earth is flat we would never have darkness or night.

    2.

    Another proof. If the earth is flat then we would always see the sun. Even at a height of 3000 miles, which I have seen quoted, the sun would never go closer than 18 degrees to the horizon, assuming the earth is 12,000 miles across. Yet we see it go below the horizon. It doesn’t go to the vanishing point as some claim, it would have to become infinitely small to go to vanishing point. It doesn’t do that. Earth is spherical.

    3.

    There is 24 hours of sunlight in Antarctica. I have seen it, went there in November of 2005. I saw the sun above the horizon and to the south of me while there. That is impossible on the ‘flat earth’ map.

    4.

    The flat earth map is only a projection. The reason the longitude lines spread out as you go towards the south pole is that this is one way of representing a sphere. As you move longitudinal, every degree is approximately 66 miles. If you look at Australia, which is approximately the same dimensions north/south and east/west. You will see that the map distorts things and is not accurate.

    5.

    The claim of the sun being something like a spotlight and not a sphere is totally not true. As the sun progresses around the earth, or across in the case of a flat earth, the sun would start to appear like an ellipse. It does not. It is always a circle.

    6.

    The illuminated part of the earth is circular, according to flat earth model. If you look up the sunset times in the southern hemisphere, you will see that during their summer, northern hemisphere’s winter, that points much further south, but on the same longitudinal line, have sun set times LATER than places closer to the path of the center of the sun. This is impossible if the sun illuminates the flat earth with a circle.

    7.

    The sun can’t hover above the earth indefinitely. This violates the laws of physics and would need an infinite amount of energy to do so.

    8.

    The stars are always the same angular distance apart from each other on the celestial sphere (that is, based on their relative positions in the sky). You can track them across the sky and as they go below the horizon, they actually set, just like the sun. They don’t go to a vanishing point. And as the stars go below the horizon, they come up from the horizon for someone further east from your location.

    9.

    You can’t see Polaris from south of the equator, and there are stars that we can’t see because the star fields are different. The earth spins with the north axis pointing towards Polaris, many pictures show this. Likewise, there are pictures of the earth rotating around Sigmas Octantis, the equivalent of the Polaris for the southern hemisphere. The pictures show the star trails going opposite between the 2 stars, but consistent with the spin of the earth.

    10.

    During the southern hemisphere’s summer, December for example, the sun sets to the southwest of Buenos Aires, Argentina. This is not consistent with the flat earth map and the supposed path of the sun. It also rises from the southeast. The further south you go, the later the sunset and earlier the sunrise until you get to 24 hour sun below 66 degrees south latitude. Befriend someone from New Zealand, they’ll tell you. And strangely, I don’t know of any flat earthers that live in the southern hemisphere. Do they exist?

    11.

    Why does the phase of the moon look so different between northern and southern hemispheres? If the earth is flat it should at least look kind of the same with some shift in the position of the crescent, but instead it is very different and almost 180 degrees different in the extreme latitudes.

    12.

    Airlines that fly nonstop from Santiago, Chile and Auckland or Sydney do it in 14 hours or less. On the flat earth map this would be impossible. The planes would have to exceed the speed of sound to go that many miles, and they just can’t do it.

    13.

    GPS in your phone works even when you don’t have cell reception. This means there are satellites up there and they are orbiting the earth in a constellation of 24 satellites, if my memory serves me right. If satellites orbit the earth, it can’t be flat.

    14.

    Flat earthers claim that buoyancy is the reason we are on the earth’s surface and not gravity. If that is the case, then how come in the vomit comet, you know the plane that does parabolas to simulate weightlessness for 30 seconds at a time, people don’t bunch up at one end of the plane due to this buoyancy? There is air and people inside the plane, so they should float towards earth because of buoyancy, right? In reality, they are floating with the air inside the plane and experience weightlessness. If you can comprehend this, there is actually maybe some hope for you.