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A4V Money Order
Hello…Do i send in the original created money order or a copy of the money order (to accounts and cfo) and keep the original? Same as BOE and PN? Bond paper for the money order that is sent in as well?
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Your answers are in this q and a.
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I’m not sure about the Bond Paper
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Thankyou Morag. Original money order to the CFO and copy for myself ,from the q&a pdf. No Q&A last night. My first Money order ( my first anything being new) for Electricity bill sent 6 weeks ago following extensions. Sent the original Money order to Accounts and the copy to the CFO along with the letters to each separately etc. Sent letters individually. I read that i can include all together from the pdf. So do i now need to resend another original to the CFO to correct my error or will the Accounts mgr have forwarded the original MO to the CFO? Wishfull. Money order not returned. Held for 12 days no reply, so accepted despite my mistake. 1st default underway. Final default due. Any thoughts?
The reason i started questioning myself is twofold. I relistened to the hold your position module last night and heard ‘keep the original’ in relation to discharging debt but not specifically for a MO. This is after i had sent my 2nd new energy bill MO on time out yesterday, original MO and letter to Accounts again to get it started and i was about to send the copy of MO and letter to CFO for new bill today. Rookie mistakes.
So my logic says, create another original MO and resend both letters and docs to the CFO including accounts as if for the first time, letter of apology to be sure and let it ride. Any Pearls?
One thing i did pick up last night relistening to said video was that as soon as the Corpse sends you a follow up demand for payment, (letter text or email), after they have accepted your instrument by default, this is a trigger to get the first default notice underway. Same as a payment refused is a liability discharged and you don’t have to wait the full 21 days, if i heard correctly.
Thanks again Morag
Terence Peter of the Tribe Douglas
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Are you discharging your power bill with an A4v?
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Yes, I will peruse. Thanks
Terence
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This might help.
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New developments. Received two separate letters(attached), unsigned, in the same envelope stating their non acceptance of the money order, letter received 25Dec. My Final Notice for this money order was sent 19Dec and the 21 days runs out on 9Jan23.
Is a certificate of protest applicable for a Money order discharged liability refused? Is this a 4th notice? Can it be sent now?
2nd matter. rang the ombudsman on 6Dec to raise a dispute against Origin not zeroing my account after holding the money order for longer than 3days. I couldn’t get it across the line. I wasn’t prepared enough with S numbers of BOE1909 in front of me. He conspired with Origin by saying the only acceptable forms of payment are on their Payment Slip. He did say he would ring Origin with my complaint and duly did. Next go round I will be ready. Is their a minimum number of days between raising complaints?
I finally got the person handling the complaint to write to me instead of ringing me. A sweet letter of non acceptance as well. Person not using their full name and signature.
How do i get person to use their full name and sign, be accountable?
Thirdly same envelope, they resent statement of account with overdue and current account due on 16Dec. I sent Money order for current account received on 09 Dec on 13Dec with apology. Kept and not returned. Can i send out the default notice now, given cross over in mail with the ‘hassle me’ statement and new money order, or still wait the 21days?
Thanks
Terence Peter
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My advice (based on personal experience) is to wait the 21 days to remain in honour. Once you have completed your three step notice with affidavit, if they are written competently, you will have a private agreement with them that you can hold your position with in court. Meanwhile study court procedures and scripts for court to prepare yourself just in case they attempt to take it there. Also scripts for debt collectors. Here is somewhere to start, add watching the webinars you need to this and you will increase your ability to deal with what they are doing.
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You could also send them a quick note thanking them for their reply as in this Q and A. Read the whole thing to find your answer.
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interesting stuff. i was thinking of doing the accepted 4 value process to discharge an electric bill, but then i thought what if in the process they decide to cut the power off? anyone had this happen?….I’m gonna have to do more studying before going for it.
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If they cut the power off that could be genocide so they are very careful before they take that sort of action. If you can create an agreement with them through a three step notice then you have a private agreement with that can be used in court if necessary. These remedies can mean you have to learn how to keep yourself safe with private agreements with Govts and corporations. A great place to start is to complete the non consent to Lockdown and Vaccine documents. Also watch any relevant webinars to educate yourself in these matters.
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thanks for the tips. ive been watching the webinars,(particularly holding your position) and slowly but surely starting to understand things that sounded like foreign language a few weeks back. glad i found solutions empowerment, ive been looking and nothing was as practical and applicable to australia as this site….
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I totally agree and Mark is a man of honour so we can trust him and the information he brings which is very rare these days.
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