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  • BOE – Road camera safety fine

    Posted by Laura on December 20, 2023 at 11:52 pm

    I was just about to ask a question here, explaining thatI have brought the BOE module and watched the webinar, bit it didn’t fully explain the changes made to the example of the “statement of account” being from the court for a which is very different to an infringement.

    As I was writing I quickly checked the modules for any relevant webinars on how to completed the “statement of account”. There is a module that runs through “Accept a public offer to contract (eg Statement of Account)on your terms”
    http://www.solutionsempowerment.org/p/module-4-accept-a-public-offer-to-contract-eg-statement-of-account-on-your-terms/

    I am posting this anyway incase this may be useful for anyone else looking in the forum for a BOE related to infringements. You may need to watch this to accompany the BOE webinar.

    I’ll keep you posted on mine anyway.

    If you have examples of an infringement filled in as a “completed” contract, post in the thread.

    • This discussion was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by  Laura Adams.
    Laura replied 1 year, 3 months ago 4 Members · 21 Replies
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  • Laura

    Member
    December 23, 2023 at 2:00 pm

    If anyone has attempted a BOE for a road camera safety fine and have addressed them instead of allowing it to go to SPER first, would you have any advice or examples of who Iand how I should address for the infringement, or an example of a BOE completed for the FAMD or QRO.

    This is the BOE example for SPER :

    AND ADDITIONAL ENDORSEMENTS FOR ACCOUNT/2012 Queensland Government, Queensland Revenue Office Party ID 54782487 Contact ID 34404854

    Note – The party ID, and Contact ID are located to the trop right of the example SPER Statement

    My attempt at adding the infringement info “ADD ADDITIONAL ENDORSEMENTS FOR ACCOUNT/2024 Queensland Government, Queensland Revenue Office, Fine Administration and Management division Infringement Notice Number 2132155597 Customer Number 108758603 Full Payment Reference Number 1021019961255


    These numbers I have included are circled in the picture of my fine in yellow.


    I’m also addressing Simon McKee who is the commissioner of the Queensland revenue office, and also the registrar of SPER. This may be helpful for anyone else addressing them.

    Simon McKee

    The commissioner

    Queensland Revenure Office

    1 william street, Brisbane, Queensland, 4000

    Simon McKee

    The Registrar

    State Penalties Enforcement Registry

    GPO Box 1387, Brisbane, Queensland 4000

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 5 months ago by  Laura Adams.
    • Roxanne

      Member
      January 12, 2024 at 7:22 pm

      Hi Laura- Clair, how did you go with this process? many thanks and best wishes. Roxy

  • Laura

    Member
    December 28, 2023 at 6:17 pm

    Q1 – Mark mentions we need to reply to a statement of account within 3 days to complete the contract. I have received my infringement notice quite a while ago, Could I possibly write the received date to be within 3 days of sending it? If I can, would I then apologies as I had been away and had not received the statement until that date?

    Q2 – I have just noticed, the infringement documents are all individual. They do not show a page 1 of 3. The infringement and second page are printed back to back on one piece of paper, but the statutory declaration (to elect someone else) is separate. Would I still add all 3 of these as the contract, or leave the declaration out? This sounds like a no brainer, I’m assuming I add all of them but you never know. I have to add page numbers to the contract anyway

    Q3 – What is the My ref no: on the “Notice of Payment” for the BOE?
    the one to the right under the name and address?
    He mentions a reference number in the PN webinar being the Birth year with the birth registration number on the birth certificate, is this the same. But Mark has put MAP000121112072 in the My Ref No: for the BOE.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 5 months ago by  Laura Adams.
    • morag-janet-of-the-hill-family

      Member
      December 29, 2023 at 11:14 am

      You answer within 3 days to remain in honour and to cancel any implied contract. It is still honourable if you weren’t able to receive it until a certain date if you have a good reason and if you apologise.

  • morag-janet-of-the-hill-family

    Member
    December 29, 2023 at 11:12 am

    You can use any reference number you like, it’s just easier to remember when you use your own dates.

  • morag-janet-of-the-hill-family

    Member
    December 29, 2023 at 11:14 am

    Which module are you referring to?

  • Laura

    Member
    December 29, 2023 at 2:12 pm

    I’m using the Module 7 and module 4 because I have needed both to explain the process of the BOE and to complete a statement of account.

    I didn’t word the infringement documents question well. I meant, I received the infringement as 3 pages. The fine itself is 2 pages back to back. Then another page which is a declaration they send along with the notice to nominate another driver if needed. I wasn’t sure if I just leave the declaration out of the statement of account when I add to it it.

    Another question I just thought of (my questions are endless 😬), my partner nominated me because I was driving his car so his all caps name is mentioned once on the infringement. Should I acknowledge him as a party or just leave him out?

    • Laura

      Member
      December 30, 2023 at 1:03 am

      Ill add a pic of my infringement with the accompanied declaration they sent for nominating another driver. I may or may not need to include the declaration page, but I’m unsure.

      When acknowledging parties, can I write the party onto the statement of account?
      In my case they have listed “the Department of Transport and Main Roads” on the infrngment, but they do not have ‘TMR’, or “Transport and Main Roads”. I checked BPAY to see who the biller code belongs too, and it says Transport and Main Roads.

      • Laura

        Member
        December 30, 2023 at 1:05 am

        The first 2 pages are the back to back pages of the Infringement (statement of account). The 3rd page is what they send with these fines, to allow you to nominate another person.

  • Laura

    Member
    December 30, 2023 at 1:15 am

    Who Receives Payment for Infringements

    For others doing a BOE for the original Infringement notice or offer to contract.
    I Searched BPAY for the recipient of the payment using the biller code on the infringement notice, and it says Transport and Main Roads Infrngement Notice, so I will direct my BOE and mail to them.

    You can search here: http://www.bpay.com.au/BillerLookupResults/

  • morag-janet-of-the-hill-family

    Member
    December 30, 2023 at 11:16 am

    Thanks for that 🙂

  • Laura

    Member
    December 30, 2023 at 3:19 pm

    Acknowledging parties, adding a party: Can I write another party on the statement of account? E.g. my infringement says “Department of Main Roads”, but does not say TMR. Could I write TMR on the form and also Acknowledge them as a party? Or is it enough to add them to the default and liability doc without that name being on the notice?

    They have also only written “LAURA ADAMS” on the infringement. Not “LAURA CLAIR ADAMS”, “Miss Adams”, and “Laura Clair Adams”.

    Acknowledging parties, nominated driver:

    If another name is on the statement of account should I still acknowledge them as a party or is this up to me?

    e.g. I was nominated as a driver for an infringement. As I was driving another person’s car, so their upper case name is mentioned once on the statement. Q- Do I need to Acknowledge them as a party? Or can I leave them out as they are not a payee?

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 5 months ago by  Laura Adams.
  • Laura

    Member
    January 9, 2024 at 10:18 am

    Meeting place for “default and liability clause” and “BOE”.

    Marks example of the Default and Liability clause says: the 8th day of November.
    And his BOE says the 8th day of December.
    The documents were sent on the 22nd November.

    My document pack did not include the BOE instructions sheet, so I referenced the BOE from his example but only referenced the BOE itself for both.
    So, I have send my “BOE” and “Default and Liability” with the same meeting date and time being 16 days after the date I sent the documents.

    Q: I don’t understand how the Default and lability meeting place date would be before the documents are sent. I guess I have missed a first step?

    Q: Is my BOE invalid because I have given them and place and time to meet after 14 days pf sending the notice?

  • morag-janet-of-the-hill-family

    Member
    January 9, 2024 at 1:18 pm
  • Laura

    Member
    January 9, 2024 at 8:18 pm

    That’s great. So as long as I have provided them a date and location to present the BOE for payment. Then that should be fine. It’s within 24 months.

    Thanks again Morag 🙂

  • Laura

    Member
    January 16, 2024 at 4:29 pm

    When I purchased my document pack I did not receive an instruction sheet.
    After assuming this wasn’t included I watched the webinars 4 and 7 and compiled my documents to send referencing marks examples.

    I did think it was strange there was no instruction sheet and the pack is set out differently to other module packs, so I did ask if there should be instructuons included but it was to late by the time they replied. I can see in point 10 of the instruction sheet, there should have been a ““Notice of Temporary
    Appointment of Fiduciary” which should have been sent along with payment (BOE), and a “Notice of Payment Delivered
    to <Name of Payee>” to be sent to Equifax.

    I can also see on point 14 of the instruction sheet there should be a “Certificate of Protest” for our meeting listed on the BOE and Default and Liability. This also has not been included in the module 7 document pack. I contacted them as my meeting is coming up this Thursday, but I am concerned we will not receive this on time as it can take a few days for a reply if they are busy.

    Q – Can someone possibly provide me the “certificate of protest”, in private message?
    I can supply a screenshot of my purchase of the module 7 documents, so you know I did purchase them quite a while ago, they are just missing some documents. hence no instruction sheet until now.

    Q – Will I still be able to send to Equifax after the first process?
    And I’m guessing, because we will be having the meeting this Thursday the “Notice of Temporary Appointment of Fiduciary” can’t be used now. Is there anything I should do to cover this in another way?

  • morag-janet-of-the-hill-family

    Member
    January 16, 2024 at 4:52 pm

    PM me

  • Laura

    Member
    January 18, 2024 at 2:36 pm

    2 questiond here:

    I have received a letter as they have sent the fine to SPER.

    Because I have sent the BOE amd completed the meeting today, should I just unclaimed the SPER mail?

    I opened the side so I can make it look as though I never opened it.

    Or should I just ignore and continue with holding my position or starting a 3 step process.

  • anthony-holton

    Member
    February 28, 2024 at 2:24 pm

    Hi All

    I have an infringement Notice from the Tasmanian Police for a Photographic Detection Device.
    I would like to also see an example or template on how how to process the notice using the AOV or BOE process?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated and if successful I will post a testimonial on the web site.

    You can use my notice as an example: see attached