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Discharging SPER debt after already contracting with them
I was giving a $4135 fine for breaking and entering into QLD during CV crazy times. I wanted to fight the fine in court, but needed support as I lacked confidence and unfortunately couldn’t find anyone to help me at the time (this was before I became a member of SE). Secondly, the police officer who fined me came to visit me on a Sunday morning at home to challenge me on taking it to court. He basically said if I didn’t pay the fine and took it to court, I would get a second fine of a similar value for leaving a ‘red zone’ (with zero cases…ever) and I shouldn’t fight it. He would also likely get into trouble as he let me through with only a fine and no question about vax status, nor did they ask me to do a test (see it was never about health). I absolutely felt pressured and backed into a corner so I agreed to pay the fine.
What I want to know, is it possible to discharge part of a debt that you have already contracted to with a promissory note? Has anyone had success?
Thank you.
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You are best to start with small parking fines and getting rid of those before trying to tackle a Promissory Note or Bill of Exchange. Heres some info about how to deal with a fine next time. To learn more watch this webinar; http://solutionsempowerment.org/webinar-how-to-address-police-when-affronted-by-an-officer/ There are many more useful webinars but this is a great place to start.
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Thanks for all of your suggestions. There is certainly a lot that I would do differently if faced with that situation again, no doubt about it. But moving forward, and dealing with the current fine, I’d really love to know if anyone has had success (or thinks I could have success) paying the remaining debt with a PN. I don’t have any other parking or other fines to contest, although I am also currently looking at clearing my tax debt with a PN with the help of a savvy accountant who is on the same page as the rest of us. There are plenty of horror stories of SPER essentially stealing property and causing a lot of grief for those who don’t repay their debts and I don’t want to put myself in the firing line. Equally so, I don’t want to pay any more money to the criminal cartel that is our government. So I’d love to hear if you think this is possible. Or not. Cheers.
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Using a PN requires you to competently write a PN for a start and then know how to write any necessary follow up Notices if they attempt to ignore it. If it is taken to court you then have to know how to hold your position in court with it and make sure you don’t get chucked under the bus by the judge. So there is lots and lots of learning and study that needs to be done before tackling a PN. Tax department and Councils and banks are notoriously difficult (but not impossible) to get over the line with this one.
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If I pay the $200 for the SE package, will this give me everything I need? I agree with you for the record. I am incredibly nervous about it. More than anything I am worried about saying or doing the wrong thing and ending up in hot water.
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I’m not sure about that but you can ask the team. Go to the Contact tab and then the Get in touch/get assistance tab and you can ask your question there.
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Thanks so much. Will do.
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Here’s some information to get you thinking.
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Covid Fines have been scrapped according to Revenue NSW Fine Commissioner Scott Johnson.
How did you go any updates?
