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Good information about how the courts work.
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Here are some comments from under this video about how the courts work…
“Great insight. As a lawyer, I totally agree that the law is not the law. This is the reason I left the profession. You are fearless Katie, and your words need to be heard.”…
“As a former lawyer, hear, hear! You are spot on, Katie!
The old saying is, “In the halls of justice, the only place there is justice is in the halls…”…“I just had to message you after seeing this video. Every single thing you said is so poignant and true, you have articulated the topic of law so well. Unless you have been involved in a legal dispute, you would assume the law is there to protect and speak the truth but rightly it’s just an egotistical chess game to the legal profession. I was personally involved in a civil case, defending myself from a narcisstic boyfriend who’s sole intent was to ruin me and my career. In a civil case, it is only the judge who decides and judges are not regulated, they show as much or as little interest in the case, completely reckless when it is your life at stake. After my five year ordeal I trained as a mediator to prevent this happening to others.”
“Beautifully spoken Katie. I truly appreciate what you have to say, if only more people would listen. I studied a little law years ago and the first words out of the lecturer’s mouth on the first day were basically to tell everyone that if they wanted to study justice they had come to the wrong place. He said they needed to find a philosophy class because there was no justice to be found in the law. That kind of set the tone.”
“In terms of my experience of a father who was an attorney and intensely disliked the skewed ‘morality ‘ in the execution of the law – Katie, this has priceless meaning and is 100% accurate. You are simply amazing!.”
“I learned about the things you discuss here, when I was called up for jury service – it was simply ‘theatre’, a farce. I was so shocked at what I learned during those three weeks! I empathise with every word.
Thank you Katie”“I did jury service and witnessed how people can be stitched up first hand.
Fortunately, on that occasion I managed to talk my jury colleagues around and he was acquitted, but if I hadn’t, then the court expected an easy and wrong conviction was coming.”“Your analysis of the legal system is 100% correct. A lawyer once told me in a general conversation ” There is NO justice”.
“we can all be experts as the law isn’t fair in most cases, it’s who can tell the best tale. My daughter is a DS and deals with barristers, CPS and defence solicitors. If you think they are all honourable and work to a common set of standards, then I hope you never have to go to court.”
“You are absolutely correct Katie. Avoid litigation at all cost.”
“My family was once involved with the so called justice system. We where told by three different lawyers we had a strong case only for each of them to tell us months and thousands of pounds down the line when things weren’t going the way it should have that we would have to wait for justice in the next world as we would only get the law in this world. He thought this was hilarious, and said he enjoyed the, game as he was paid handsomely for it. If I wasn’t in such a state of shock, I would now be doing life for murdering that arsehole of a human being right there and then. Instead we went stumbling into the night financially ruined, battered demoralised and bankrupt. I can’t stand them now, they are the lowest form of life and that’s saying something nowadays.”
“I trained as a lawyer and you are completely right. It really is just a game. I experienced this first hand as a young solicitor and eventually left the profession. All the training and ideals I held were nothing in the real world where your client could lose simply because the other party had a lawyer who was higher up in the pecking order. Nothing to do with the merits of the case. In many instances I also found that clients had a completely unrealistic expectation of what was achievable using the law and it was best to refer them to some form of mediation – even if it came down to simply helping them write a personal letter to the wrongdoer and call upon their conscience. Funny enough, this worked more than once.”
“After working for 28 years as a Custody Officer in English Law Courts, you are correct Katie its a game that barristers play and you will never see a poor barrister.”
“Well said Katie only those of us that have experienced the “justice” system have any idea of how crooked it really is. My ex husband was falsely accused of a crime a decade ago, we went through hell and came close to financial ruin. There is very little that is fair or just in our justice system, it is as you say a game and politics is often involved.”
“Katie, everything you said in this video is absolutely true. After 45 years of working within government regulatory field, this very truth is clear regarding the law and justice.”
“I’ve just had my own experience of this. I realised the law is all just smoke and mirrors when the driver of the car that killed my son who was a passenger, got off. Walked away, after perjuring himself by blaming the dead passenger. I suddenly saw that the more money you have, then justice is easily achievable and as you say Katie, it’s a game.”
“Back in the 70’s I couldn’t decide between law school or vet school, so I volunteered at a vet clinic and a prominent law office to get a feel for the day-to-day job. Only lasted 2 weeks at the law office, which broke my heart. There was no concern for justice, just winning and billable hours. And the biggest plum was managing to “win” when the client was blatantly guilty.”
“I had the utter misfortune of watching the criminal justice system in action last year as I sat on a Jury for 7 weeks in a child cruelty and neglect case. Can you imagine that there is no legal definition for cruelty? The legal system has no definition for it. So it’s left to 12 (in our case, thanks to Covid, 11 jurors) to decide what they believe cruelty amounts to.
You’re given directions by the judge before you retire to make your verdict. You have to fulfil each criteria for each count against the defendant(s) to find them guilty. In my opinion, our directions were biased and made it virtually impossible to reach a guilty verdict.
Even though we all believed the acts had been carried out.It split us, the jury, almost down the middle. 27 counts we had to consider. I still can’t forget the experience and the miscarriage of justice that took place.
“<font face=”inherit”>The first video by katie that i have 100% agreed with having been through the justice system myself and my life ruined, i can testify that everything this woman has just said is 100% true, be very careful who you trust, what you say and most important if you get involved with the police or any reason say nothing or as little as possible as they will lie and twist everything….and </font>I<font face=”inherit”> mean, everything, you say.</font>“
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Thankyou. For another perspective. Dean Clifford ( Canada) commented on this subject when asked, in a webinar, recently. He said he used to believe the judicary/courts were corrupt. Now he comprehends, that they will work for you if you have properly established a contract in your favour. In other words, people lose onlybecause they haven’t created the necessary conditions. For some additional context on that. Elsewhere he has explained that we have forfeited our rights entirely and are perceived as having done so. This is also why the court works against us. Take control of the strawman and establish a contract in your favour and then the courts will serve you. In some ways it IS justice. The courts are simply responding to the fact most people are, legally, slaves or chattel. The court can’t perceive it any differently.
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Thanks.
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Hi morag-janet and S.E members, we came across this manual written by Thomas Schauf. Former Barrister. Think you will all enjoy the content. I’m right in the thick of it with our bank.
Bye for now
:brad-warren:
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Thank you this is excellent!!!
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Pleasure morag, not sure how to send it to all S.E members?
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Post it on the forums and groups you think will find it useful.
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Thankyou
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You could also volunteer it under the Resources menu / ‘Community Contributed’
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Okay thanks anandrah
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