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Ideas on the system forcing their contracts on to us.
My ideas with the system forcing us to contract with them.
The way I see it now a days is that the only way the corporation that has forced you to contact with them will cancel the (infringement) or any contract for that matter, is to put pressure on them by supplying a fee schedule, getting them in a default judgment (3x notices process) and then send them demand for payment notices with a supporting invoice.
Then once they don’t pay you them have to summons them.
I could be wrong but it seems they don’t give a shit about the Law, 1 because they know the courts are on their side, 2 that we won’t follow through with the whole process.
So my opposing idea is to instead just fight it in court, requesting to have the infringement heard in court. They then send you a summons (offer to go to court) and you conditionally accept it.
They can not provide evidence to the conditional acceptance so it’s all done.
The contract (infringement) is only processed once you pay it, your license points do not come off until you have paid or set up a payment plan.
So once you request to have it heart in the courts the corporation that issued you the infringement then discards it.
Or it’s sent to the courts either way they don’t bother you anymore because the courts are now taking on the liability.
Here is a conditional acceptance form I have done.
I’m in the same position as you now with a infringement but the only difference is I noticed the ones who sent it with a conditional acceptance notice/ demand notice with concerns that needed to be met, one being how could I breach the contract if I have signed the license All Rights Reserved.
If they ignore that my plan is to have the request to the matter heard in court and conditional accept the courts offer.
You can ask to have a sper matter or most infringements heard in court just so you know.
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We’ve had members on here who claimed they let them know they wanted to go to court and the claimants side -stepped that and withdrew money from their account without their permission in collusion with the bank and took the demerit points off anyway. So firstly you could make sure your money is safe in a trust account or a foundation account and if they still take it they have now violated a Trust agreement and that is pretty serious and will allow you to take further steps. But if it is in a Trust account they are far less likely to try it on.
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Also just want to thank you again for your replies, it’s good to know someone is helping us.
I want to join the Q&A but it’s just hard to allocate the time for it.
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Ok good to know, thanks.
I have a few questions if I may.
Did they use the process on the website that is seeking the payment to dispute in court?
It states online to not pay if you plan to dispute it.
I find that very strange that they could do that. I understand if they only did the 3 step process and the corporation didn’t acknowledge that and went ahead with the taking of the money etc but once in the courts hands I thought it is now their liability.
I guess I will find out as I don’t see anything coming from me sending in a copy of my license showing I reserved my rights. I think that only works in court but even then they will still try to not accept it.
I just can’t get over how corrupt the system is.
When I joined this site I thought yes now we can push back but it seems you have to set the corporations up and then take them to court in order for any remedy or even for them uphold/acknowledge the Law.
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These people found they met roadblocks. They had done the three step notices etc but they were ignored and as I said they said the banks were colluding with the police. So it was suggested that they ensure their money was not able to be plundered by putting it into a foundation or a Trust or both so it no longer belonged to them but to the trust or foundation. One of them said he would put the plundering down to experience and take measures for the future to ensure it wouldn’t happen again.
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I think I read those post too, from my understanding they only sent the 3 notices but never requested to have it heard it court. To be honest I’m not sure but I would lean towards they didn’t request to have it heard in court.
As I started in a comment before I think they know we don’t have a leg to stand on unless we pursue them legally.
I’m going to do the court request and see happens.
I’ll be sure to let the SE teams know the outcome.
So messed up that these people working for the governing corporations can sell their souls for a paycheque.
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I agree but it is forcing us to grow up and learn to take care of our own affairs and in the process learning how to hold criminals to account for their unlawful behaviour. Previously we thought some one else was going to take care of it for us thus keeping us in a childlike state.
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I agree fully, I’m very happy to know what I know.
I really great knowing that I know we are being lied to and that we are just slaves to the Roman Empire or whatever people what to call them.
I just wish their philosophy was for good intentions not evil is what I was referring too.
But I look at this way now and that is the people (cops people in government) have a choice but they chose to live in this commercial world.
I believe the Elite are not doing anything wrong as they are only offering us this commercial would, it’s the people who are accepting it.
Anyway that is my view on this. 😊
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Great summary !
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