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Obtaining a Qld Fee Simple Land Title document
Just sharing the steps that I have done (following Mark) that has helped me to get this document.
I had to email: info@titlesqld.com.au with the subject line: Request for current title search
and in the body of the email: Please search for …
and you type whatever info you have of the property/land.
Then, they will email you back with a link and what/how to do the search…and then after the documents are found, you can add them to cart and pay for them.
It was an easy straight forward process, and cost approx $28 for each document that you choose to get a copy of. I was able to not only get a document that says the property is in FEE SIMPLE, but also, my search unexpectedly also brought up a copy of the original land title which they have kept back. It says GRANTED in FEE SIMPLE as well. That cost $28 as well.
Another land I searched for, had the current title document, that said FEE SIMPLE, but not a copy of the original land title.
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Well done and great information for everyone. Thanks 🙂
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I was listening to a fellow called Daryll Obryan who is part of the Know Your Rights team and is right into the land titles and the deception/fraud under the state governments.
He made the point that they change the language only slightly to make a huge change in our landholding status.
He advised when the land was initially granted by the Crown it was granted as ”Estate held ‘in’ fee simple”. He advised if you view the records now is states ”Estate fee simple” or just ”fee simple.”
By removing ‘in’ it has completely changed the status.
If anyone has recently received a copy of the new ‘digital’ land title copy, please check and confirm if the above is reflected on your document.
Keen to hear any feedback. 🙂
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If they have changed it they have been deceptive therefore it is void ab initio and if they try to make any claims under that change, they can be asked to prove that it is not void ab initio and they can be asked to prove that they followed lawful processes to achieve the change in land title and they can be asked to prove that you consented to this diminishment of rights.
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I have a copy of the original Crown Grant which states “a grant in fee simple”.
Then a couple of old Certificate of Titles that state “estate in fee simple”
The recent eCTs both use ‘Estate Fee Simple’
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Mine states Estate in Fee Simple.
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Would it be possible to get the title copy you have notarized and send it to DFAT for authentication into an original document?
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A good question to ask at the Q and A this Wednesday … https://solutionsempowerment.org/event/general-qa-july-17/
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General Q&A: July 17 – SolutionsEmpowerment.org
General Q&A: July 17 – SolutionsEmpowerment.org
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The Victorian equivalent is stating on their website :
A Copy of Title is now known as Register Search Statement. It is the electronic representation of title information, and it replaces earlier paper forms of titles.
It contains:
- Land description
- Names of the current property owners
- If there is a mortgage registered on the title
- Any encumbrances, caveats and notices
The information is public and registered within the Victorian Land Registry.
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My course of action:
1. do title search to see what documents are available
2. email/write to request PAPER COPIES of search results, not ‘register search statements’
I can already imagine administrator replying with typical ‘oh we don’t provide those anymore’
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I wonder if doing a three step notice in answer to any claims like that would help to create an agreement that they need to provide you with the original deed?
solutionsempowerment.org
General Q&A: July 17 – SolutionsEmpowerment.org
General Q&A: July 17 – SolutionsEmpowerment.org
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Was able to obtain all documents.
An archive search also returned the original Crown Grant which was amazing to see.-
Wow that’s so great well done, can you post the original Crown Grant here?
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I’d prefer to keep the document private. But if I have time I’ll post a redacted copy
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Thank you 🙂
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Been trying to purchase mine all week, the site gives me a payment error every time so I emailed them and they said their “products” were down at the moment lol
So they’re products now, not titles.-
Interesting.
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Since the transition from PCT (paper) to ECT (electronic) titles, the banks have held onto any paper title that was in their possession at the time of the change (i.e. any properties under mortgage or used for financing).
I am trying to obtain that paper title from the bank for a mortgage that has been discharged, and am running into a bit of resistance. (relating to Victoria)
* The paper duplicate of titles held by the banks were not destroyed when the system went electronic; they were stamped with ‘cancelled’ (or similar) and put into archives. (I have confirmation of this from my bank)
* Yes, I am aware that Vic Land Titles Office holds all original paper titles.
* I already have a valid paper duplicate title from Vic Land Titles Office (done before they stopped allowing paper copies late in 2024).
* I’m after the cancelled duplicate title the bank still holds in archives.
* I do not need this for any legal purposes. In principal, I do not want the bank to be holding onto something (I believe) they have no claim to. If this situation arose before electronic titles, they would have handed it over. A transition to electronic titles should not (in my opinion) change that.
Does anyone have any comments from a legal perspective?
I want to write a follow up letter that is more persuasive.