Promissory Note

[chuggles]

Hello shaunm.

In such a case you need to honour the note. My suggestion would be to satisfy your obligation to ‘pay’ by giving them another PN.

Remember PNs are both money and currency. Remember also that our entire monetary system is built on PNs of some sort so the only possible way to ‘pay’ is to use a PN of some description.

Hope that helps.

[shaunm]

Thanks for your reply Chuggles.

[rtw711]

You wrote “My suggestion would be to satisfy your obligation to ‘pay’ by giving them another PN.”

In the event they show up on the day of scheduled meeting for presentment of the P.N. and to collect payment from you, what excuse would you use for wanting to give them another P.N. when they present your P.N. for payment? They may think that you don’t have the funds to pay them. I know that in the P.N. module instructions it states the following:

“If anyone attends, it is EITHER to return your
P.N.s (that discharges the liability against the maker and the company) or to
present the P.N.s for payment. You are permitted up to 3 days to deliver to the
Payee another P.N. for each of the presented P.N.s as payment.”

Given this, what is the purpose of issuing another P.N.? If they agree to this, then you send them a 2nd P.N. within 72 hours and they present the 2nd P.N. at the 2nd scheduled meeting with them showing up again. If you don’t pay them in cash on the spot or via a cheque or band transfer (EFT), then they will think you are not going to pay at all. If they refuse the 2nd P.N., then you win because they have refused a lawful method of payment and you don’t have to give them cash/money from your bank account.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 9 months ago by  rtw711.

[Ant_made]

If you offer to pay with legal tender and they refuse it, it cancels it out does it not?

[Ant_made]

Maybe take a copy of your BC , circle the Registration number as The Estate with a written Endorsement on the front and say take the funds out of the Estate, only to the value of the bill and you want a cheque receipt of the transaction. You will have to sign for it, By: and ARR. Video it and Ask them if can they do that and Turn that into a Promissory Note for you instead.

[Ant_made]

If you get a cheque-receipt that is to go and pay towards your Public Debt, via the ATO. You can’t spend it.

[rtw711]

1. The attached photo is an example for a utility bill. However, is this wording written on the utility bill suitable to be written on your Birth Certificate? If not, what would you write on Birth Certificate? Would you also write at the top (e.g. to the side of the legal name) “Amount due: $50, 000” (if this was the amount owing on a loan say) and point an arrow from the written Endorsement to the amount due as shown in the attached photo?

2. Where you said “you will have to sign for it”, I assume you meant you sign your name on the Birth Certificate using “By: ” and “All rights reserved”?

3. What is a cheque receipt? Just like a normal receipt? Do you have an example?

4. If they are not willing to take the Birth Certificate and turn it into a Promissory Note for you, then have they refused payment?

[risingsun]

thats interesting…the photo u attached….did it work? cheers

[rtw711]

I have not used that process shown in the photo yet. However, it is another method I have come across called the Express Trust Contract (ETC) method, that people are using to successfully pay utility bills for any government corporation. However, with all of these methods of discharging liabilities, you have to hold your position with honour (i.e. without arguing) because the corporates don’t like people using them because they don’t get paid twice; only get paid once from your CQV trust and not from your bank account. If you use this method, the corporates in most cases (especially the Councils) are not acknowledging payment and zeroing the individual’s account. However, I am aware of someone who is successfully using it to pay their Optus phone bill where Optus is doing the right thing and zeroing the account which is appearing on their monthly statement.

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[risingsun]

thanks for reply…i am still wrapping my head around all of this. Am i along the right lines…the CQV trust is the one that is set up when your birth is registered. you (the living being) is used as collatoral…i.e. they use our share of the earths wealth that we are entitled to to mint some dollars. all bills (electricity/phone etc) could be and are settled using the estate account but then they are also paid by us. they make us think that we are the trustee, but really we are the beneficiery? when we die, they balance any books and skim the balance of the trust…????? as said, still trying to grasp it…apparently, the bonds are traded. am i anywhere close…how would you articulate it? thanks

[Ant_made]

The Birth registration is the Estate and they tricked Mother to signing us over to the State, Registrar General and then to the Federal side, through the Treasury and for Futures (Performance). We have been Pledge to pay the Public Debt, but they never pay back on the Private side, so they do it with double entry bookkeeping and it gets held against the us through the Name. She never put us down as the Beneficiary, so they assumed and presumed that they were. So they gave the BC to use and made us the trustee with benefits to operate in the Legal commercial world. We accepted it when we used it 3 times as ID for different departments within the system, all linked to the SSN. The ATO is the trustee to the SSN/account/bond and hold us to it to perform as the Person Named to it. We are all children of the State and the Country is our Father, until you correct it. The thing is, Mother is the Grantor to that Deed, she is the one that holds the Power, more than what she knows.

[risingsun]

Hey Ant, …so if the mother is the grantor of the deed….does she still have power at any time to reclaim it (assuming she is still living…otherwise, as you mentioned next step is you to become grantor? ..note i suppose that depends if the trust is revocable or irrevocable? Assuming she is still living. mmgetting in a knot here …I am def going to check out vic beck. thanks again for all yr replies!!

[Ant_made]

Yes she is and she has irrevocable power, as it is her that granted it. It is her word and signature that holds the Power to it.

[Ant_made]

I forgot to mention. You can become the Grantor to your Estate without the blessing of your Mother as well. So for People that don’t have mum onboard or she has past away, you can do it through a Process called Reclaim Dominion over your property.

[risingsun]

👍👍cheers really appreciate the sharing

[risingsun]

👍👍cheers really appreciate the sharing

[rtw711]

My understanding is that the CQV trust is created when a birth is registered, that we are the beneficiary of that trust and the bonds are traded. I’m not sure what happens when we die. However, you may be correct in them balancing the books after your passing.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 9 months ago by  rtw711.
• This reply was modified 1 year, 9 months ago by  rtw711.

[Ant_made]

They Securitise it through Registration and Certification. There is two side to the ledger, Public and Private, and the money (PN) is not being return to source for cancellation, so they balance the books at the end of the day from the Reserve. Hence the Public Debt gets bigger and bigger. The CQV is the Minor account (Private side) held in your Name and the BC is The Strawman account holding us to the Public side. If you don’t claim the Minor account at the age of majority, you have 7 more years to return from the Dead to claim it. After that it closes, as it has reached its end date. There is a whole lot of interest on top of that account from all the leveraging that remains open and you are only entitled to that, if you know how to claim it.

[Ant_made]

Yeah, actually its endorsing the back, not the front. But my thoughts were along the lines of taking it with you for the meeting, if they show up and handing that over instead. Apparently they never show up, because it would be admitting that the system is fraudulent. All you are trying to do, is to turn the BC, which is a receipt to the COLB, identified by the Registration Number (the Estate Name held in trust) into a PN to settle the matter. They accept the BC as PN to start the account, ie TFN, DrIver’s License, Bank Account, etc. So why can we use that way?

[rtw711]

So what is written on the front of that utility bill you would write on the back, or would you write something different? Is this explained in one of the modules? If yes, which one?

Yes, True. If they accept the BC to create accounts, then we should be able to also.

[Ant_made]

I don’t think there are modules here teaching about the Birth Trust Estate. I found this info from Vic Beck on Reclaim Your Securities. His information is spot on, when it comes to the Private side (Securities/Trusts/Estates) and the system at play. He has made perfect sense to me, more than anyone else I have heard so far. Even more than Romley or WolverDean and they are speaking a similar language.

[rtw711]

Yes, it does.

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

I believe the correct term is to tender payment to the tenor of your
acceptance and/or to discharge the liabilty with either a Promissory
Note (they receive the full credits) a Bill of Exchange (this can
discharge the liability with $1.05 and should be used to discharge when
they are seeking unjust enrichment) and Accepted for Value, this process
is used when there is a tearaway section on the statement of account.
To study how these three methods are carried out competently, watch the
appropriate webinar and buy the module that goes with that webinar.

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

The next step is to make sure you have your private Notary as a witness to the dishonour and have a tificate of Dishonour ready for him or her to sign so you have recorded the dishonour on the same day. Purchase and watch the Rules of the Game Workshops (under the Knowledge tab) to get more detail about how to fully complete process along with real life examples of success.

[shaunm]

Thank you Morag. I have watched both the PN & BoE webinars. I will be purchasing the materials and push forward to take care of the liability alleged by the local government body masquerading as a council.