promissory notes

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

If you have a social security number if you have become a citizen of Australia I think that may be ok, but just check with the team before you use it.

[newguy1113]

hey what exactly is the equivalent of the social security number in australia? the customer reference number or the TFN? just need to know for sure. thanks

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

Wouldn’t it be the number you use when on a benefit for unemployment etc?

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

The TFN is used on A4v and some say the TFN identifies the public trust run under the strawman name.

[newguy1113]

thanks for your replies. It’s really tricky with all these numbers, the Australian system is really shifty and confusing, i guess they avoided making it easy like in the states…which would you say is superior between the two?

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

You can also use a passport number, or a birth certificate number or Revenue/Tax number. they all point to the same place.

[rtw711]

1. If using a Passport number on a PN, where it is in the format “PA1234567”
For PN Registration number (9-digit number), would the following format “YY1234567” be correct where YY is the last 2 digits of your Year of Birth, and the 7 digits is the last 7 digits of Passport number?
2. If using a Tax File Number (TFN)(9 digits e.g. 123 456 789), would you use the full 9-digit TFN and not use the last 2 digits of Year of Birth?

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

The last question in this document deals with the number of digits question

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[rtw711]

Thanks MJ. Very helpful.

[rtw711]

Just to clarify what it says on the last page for reply to question 1) in the A4V-process.pdf. The member responding is saying that it doesn’t matter how many digits there are for the Trust Certificate Number and says that their TCN is less than 9 digits.
Given this, for the Promissory Note (PN) registration number (9 digits YYYY+5 digit Birth Certificate Registration No.), if I use my 8 digit Birth Certificate registration number and the 4 digit Year of Birth, I end up with a 12 digit PN registration number (YYYY+8 digit BC no.), or a 10 digit PN registration number (YY+8 digit BC no.), or if using my Passport number, a 9 digit PN registration number (YY+last 7 digits of Passport no.). Given given what that member’s reply was in that A4V-process document, I assume the 10 or 12 digit PN registration number is okay to use.

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[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

I would think so, I think the important thing is to get a record with a number for identification to give you a reference point to refer to in any future paperwork.

[newguy1113]

ok, this isnt in relation to the promisorry note anymore. i already did that n i used the CRN and TFN i think it worked after a little administrative process n back and forth.. its been a couple month since i heard from them so thats good…im asking about these numbers for something else im working on, thats why im trying to find out which holds more weight i know theyre all fraudulent instruments that end up in the same place….

[Ant_made]

I thought it was the TFN that activate the treasury to access your Name Trust account?

[newguy1113]

I’m not sure, on the promissory note mark made the TFN was the EIN which is like our ABN, so you might be right…

[Ant_made]

I thought it was because no one really uses their Birth certificate for all contracting, but the majority use TFN, especially everyday workers, small business, big business, banking, etc, etc, all locked into the system. That’s why they love our offspring getting a job and TFN at a young age. Lock ’em in Eddy!

[Lyn]

TFN is the EIN, but there may be some who only have a CRN if they haven’t been employed and/or never entered the tax realm, eg if they only work for cash.

I used TFN and CRN on A4V money orders and some add a Cusip number if they know it.