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  • Strawman counterarguments to Penhallow v. Doane's Admin & Cruden v Neale

    Posted by simon-limon on March 9, 2025 at 3:40 pm

    The following are often cited by Mark as part of the strawman argument-

    “Inasmuch as every government is an artificial person, an abstraction, and a creature of the mind
    only, a government can interface only with other artificial persons. The imaginary, having neither
    actuality nor substance, is foreclosed from creating and attaining parity with the tangible. The
    legal manifestation of this is that no government, as well as any law, agency, aspect, court, etc.
    can concern itself with anything other than corporate, artificial persons and the contracts
    between them.”
    Penhallow v. Doane’s Administrators, 3 U.S. 54, 3 Dall. 54, 1 L. Ed. 507 (1795)

    “There, every man is independent of all laws, except those prescribed by nature. He is not bound
    by any institutions formed by his fellowmen without his consent.”

    Cruden v Neale 2 N.C. 338 (N.C. Super. 1796)

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    There is a discussion by Freeman Delusion that would seem to invalidate the use of both of these ‘judgments’.

    https://freemandelusion.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Penhallow-and-Cruden.pdf

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    Would like to see Mark remove these from modules/webinar discussions, unless there is a counterargument to this counterargument?

    jaip67 replied 3 months, 1 week ago 3 Members · 2 Replies
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  • saul-james

    Member
    March 10, 2025 at 7:21 pm

    I guess the bottom line in relation to the quotes etc is this, if the court claims to have jurisdiction over man and that there is no diversity between man and person, then it is up to the court to prove it! Equity prevails

  • jaip67

    Member
    March 10, 2025 at 10:06 pm

    At a glance, it would seem the courts use the word ‘citizen’ when rebutting the attorneys “Quote”,

    The principal still stands regarding MAN

    Citizen: “Members of a political community who, in their associated capacity, have established or submitted themselves to the dominion of a government”. (Blacks 5th Ed)

    Acquiring your source document? Or,

    A notarised, witnessed Declaration of your status?

    To be clear, the court establishes jurisdiction when you don’t rebut their assumption.