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Threatened with the sack for all rights reserved
Posted by zacmando682 on August 27, 2023 at 9:03 amHi all,
For the last 6 months in my current job I’ve been signing in red all rights reserved. All my licence contracts/worksafe and forms are in red and since the start of the year. Anyway I’ve been told to sign in blue or black or potentially lose my job. What are your opinions on what to do here? Because I don’t want to lose my job but don’t want to make my signature legal, I’d much rather keep it lawful.
Cheers
Zac
zacmando682 replied 1 year, 9 months ago 6 Members · 11 Replies -
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Hi Zac, If you are an employee you are in the ‘fiction world’ and will need to adhere to those processes, so you’ll need to use blue (corporate) or black (dead).
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Why is that given that I have signed the work contract (due to being a man in the private realm) and that I have an affidavit stating that? Work that not be signatory fraud as the red autograph Is written in the affidavit.
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And to add to that don’t living men and women have a right to make a wage as sustenance of their labour?
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Maybe say you Identify as a Red Pen and you find their lack of support discriminating. It’s all the rage these days.
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Hi Zac,
What is it you are hoping to achieve by signing in your preferred style?
As an employee (person) are you not mixing jurisdictions?
What is more valuable to you, your job, or your preferred style of signature?
Have you considered becoming self employed?
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To me, it’s keeping my rights reserved and my status as living be known. As previously stated, I have signed all High risk work licenses and DoT Documentation in red all rights reserved. Quite simply I’m there to provide labour in return of Sustenance. The debt currency that we are currently the backing for and look at the end of the day is committing fraud not a crime? I have provided to everyone that I am licensed to do something with an affidavit showing that in red is the accurate presentment of my autograph and no one has ever rebutted, which means it must be the truth in commerce, correct?
I have been signing like this for 6 months at this job and it’s only becoming an issue now. I did it at my old job too and there was never an issue. As for mixing jurisdiction, the jurisdiction in my eyes has not changed has it, especially given the fact I signed all rights reserved from the start. How else would I make a living apart from being self-employed?
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Zac, from what I have read and I think Mark has said, it doesn’t matter about the colour. Apparently that is Patriot talk. The Signature is what is important, because it is what Grants things. Your signature is the key to the Name held in trust. The Legal fiction is a constructive trust and is derived from the word construe, not construct. Meaning it is fabricated, made up, implied, etc, etc.
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The colour is not as important as has been promoted in some arenas. Blue will be fine and you will still maintain your status as living signing and reserving your rights.
The key is that you write “By:” which differentiates the signer from the name, thereby showing there
are two parties.
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This is mine here. I ended up speaking with someone higher up in the corporation and they were more concerned about what the All Rights Reserved means rather than the colour and vice versa. After a short 5 minute chat without admitting much. There is now no worries. I think it was empty threats, however, wanted to cover my own ends.
Thanks again all.