Using All Rights Reserved

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

The one at the bottom is the one Mark recommends and however you decide to sign then you need to do that consistently on all documents. This gives you a record of it being your usual signature and then you can compile lots of examples of that being your usual signature. You can also complete a stat dec stating you have a new signature and with the new signature on the stat dec to illustrate, with a JP witnessing your signature that you place at the bottom of the document (as well as having the example higher up on the document). The stat dec will enable you to have the date and year you officially started using the new signature.

[rtw711]

Thanks for that M-J.

However, this raises the following questions:

1. I actually prefer the bottom example of signing my name too as it would be the easiest and it is how I was signing my name prior to adding “All rights reserved” to my signature.

2. Is “All Rights Reserved” preferred over “All rights reserved”, or it does not matter?

3. What is the reason for not using “By:” and signing your name as shown in the 1^st method i.e. separating first and last name with the “:” with ARR written immediately below?

4. If I were to sign my name using the 2^nd method on an Affidavit but have signed my name on my driver’s licence using the 1^st method, then in the absence of a Stat Dec, could that prejudice me in a court matter where the Judge/Magistrate decides to refuse to accept the Affidavit as evidence? It would not surprise me if they did. However, this would be grounds for appeal for a new hearing. Also, if judge did this, then I think I would ask for an adjournment to produce a Stat Dec but that would create joinder.

If you were to request an adjournment would that create joinder? My understanding is that when you ask the Court to do something you get enjoined in the proceedings. Hence, joinder.

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

I would use All rights reserved as it is a small sentence.

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

When you go to court you need to have a plan so you are directing the proceedings to ensure you get what you need. You need to buy modules with role plays and study webinars and role play at home to prepare. You must use By: in the signature as it separates the living from the dead. Only the living can use this and it signifies the one writing the signature is living. The living is signing, but is using the dead as a transmitting utility.

[rtw711]

Hi M-J, I am a little confused.

In the post, Driving Unregistered Vehicle, in your response on 17th July, you attached the document titled “How-to-sign-All-rights-reserved-2.pdf”. At the top of page 1 of this document, Mark wrote the following:

“The key is that you write “By” which differentiates the signer from the name, thereby showing there are two parties. Regards mark”.

Then on page 2 of the same pdf, in the post ‘How to “Sign your licence’, Mark showed how to sign ” your licence” as follows:

By (by accommodation …) Signature [Comment: forgot to include the colon ‘:’]

John James Dow (this is sentence case) [Comment: Title case NOT sentence case]

All Rights Reserved [Comment: Title case NOT sentence case]

Given the above, has Mark changed his view on using “By:” where you just sign your name as shown in my second example in my original post above?

i.e. Sign as:

J.Doe (written in cursive or your usual signature without ARR)

All rights reserved

Actually it would be quite difficult to fit all those 3 lines on the licence. What makes it even harder is the digital signing pad they make you use to sign your name, and on top of that, the digital pen as well. They won’t use the signature you used on their paper form. I reckon they deliberately have done this to make it hard for people to try and stop them from signing their name with ARR. I know I found it quite difficult when I previously signed my named using the first ARR format I quoted above.

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

Last time I went in very recently to update license I signed By:,signature, under that, Jane Henrietta Doe, under that, All rights reserved.

The first time they sent it back as the algorithms rejected it because I wrote three separate lines. The second time I made sure all lines intersected with one another and it was accepted. I think the computer saw three lines separated from each other as separate signatures but when I made sure each line touched the one above it, then the computer saw it as one signature.

[rtw711]

Is the format you used to sign your name, the format Mark is using, or you are not sure?

Also, when you go in to the Licence dept to update your licence details, are you required to use a digital pad and sign your name with your finger? If yes, any tips for using the digital pad? I asked them to use my signature on the licence update form and they refused to accept that telling me I had to sign on the digital pad. Any way around this? As I mentioned before, I found it really difficult to get it right where it took me several attempts to get it right.

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

One time it took me several attempts too, but I didn’t care, as long as I got what I wanted in the end, that was fine with me.

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

Yes I use the format Mark recommends after watching several webinars etc to make sure I got it right. Now I always sign that way even on my private documents. By: <signature> under that Sentence Case Name under that All rights reserved, and I make sure each line is touching the one above and interlinked with it.

[rtw711]

Thanks for the clarification M-J.
Finally, when using “all rights reserved”, are you using Title Case (i.e. “All Rights Reserved”) or Sentence Case (i.e. “All rights reserved”) when signing your signature? I believe it is probably just a personal preference as to which case format you use.

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

I use All rights reserved

[rtw711]

See my reply below. I replied to the wrong message.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 11 months ago by  rtw711.

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

I should have said Title Case Name not sentence case thanks for the clarification between sentence case and title case.

[rtw711]

Ok. I assume you are using Title Case Name for your name (i.e. Jane Mary Doe) and Sentence Case for “All rights reserved”.

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

Yes that’s right 🙂

[vaughan]

I did my all right reserved license update. It came back with my old signature on it.

I sent a letter with a stat dec supporting it.

The response that I got back was the ceo had rejected it and they can use signatures up to 10 years prior. They supplied the acts they referred to which I found written in there, both about rejecting whatever they don’t like and 10 year signatures and photos. The act date is 2014. Could they have updated to prevent these remedies?

Not sure how to go now whether to ask if the act has had royal ascension or ask about the law supporting it. This is in WA so not sure if that is different for other states.

Does anyone have any ideas to move forward?

Thanks

[rtw711]

In one of his videos, Mark suggested:

1. Show the agencies that it is your normal signature by showing them your same signature on your credit/bank card, passport etc. Then, hopefully they would not refuse it. They still have no right to do so. What WA State Act(s) were they referring to?

2. Get an interstate driver’s licence. Do you know any interstate?

[vaughan]

Thanks, I did have it on the stat dec that it was my updated signature. It didn’t seem to make a difference.

I do know someone interstate, thanks.

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

Did you get a new photo? Apparently if the photo is not updated they use the old signature.

[vaughan]

Thanks for that morag, I didn’t get a new photo, that might explain it.

[tee]

hi all,

just reading through the messages and just wondering if I have to included my middles names, reasoning being is that its 13 characters and I’m unsure as to whether this would fit.

Would put the first initial of each middle name be sufficient

thanks

tarei

[rtw711]

Here is a couple of formats Mark is using where required which is obtained from a few documents he has provided me.

1. For Notice of Liability, Notice of Default, Final Notice

By

${full name}

All rights reserved

2. For an Affidavit (special matter)

By

${full name}

All rights, dominion, powers, privileges,

indemnities and immunities, whether actual,

contingent, inherent or prospective: Reserved

I will assume Mark is writing/signing his autograph/signature on Line 1 and uses Title Case on Line 2 where he writes his full name (e.g. John Mark Doe or John Doe). You could write your name in the format Jane M Doe to shorten your name. Nothing wrong in doing so.

[tee]

hi,

thanks, i did see that he had attached a copy of his drivers license in module one and he has

By (signature)

J.Doe

All rights reserved

so i supposed as long as initials are expressed then this would be ok

thanks for the reply i appreciate it

• This reply was modified 1 year, 10 months ago by  tee.