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Request for Birth Certificate by parents in UK
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Request for Birth Certificate by parents in UK
I see that many in Australia know what their form is called and have managed to get copies of them. Has anyone done this in the UK. I have looked everywhere I can to find out how my parents requested a birth certificate for me but it looks like you go into see the Registrar and he fills in the birth certificate then and there. The only other thing I can find is the hospital filling in a form but I cannot find the name of this form either. Any help would be much appreciated.
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This discussion was modified 2 years, 3 months ago by
moondancermel.
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This discussion was modified 2 years, 3 months ago by
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Hi Marilyn,
The Hospital form is called Registration of Live Birth, and the one at Registrar (Vital Statistics) is called Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) or Statement of Live Birth (SOLB), it can also be referred to as A Certified Copy of Registration of Birth, Write in Fluro yellow diagonally, LONG FORM, across the application form when filling this one out and at the top write (pen) in capital letters, FULL CONFIDENTIAL COPY. Your Birth Certificate should come from there as well and that is a receipt to the SOLB/COLB, and it will have the Registration number on it. If you contact the office they should be able to point you in the right direction.
All the best.
Ant
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I got hold of GOP – this is their reply –
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Dear Mel,
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Thank you for your enquiry.
It may be helpful if I explain that when a child is born, a birth notification is issued by the National Health Service to the registrar in the district where the birth took place, to assist that registrar in fulfilling their statutory function, under the Births and Deaths Registration Act 1953, to ensure that all births in the district are registered.
Whilst the GRO for England and Wales does not hold this information, you may wish to contact the NHS Trust, in the district of your birth, to enquire whether they retain the birth notification information.
Regards
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So that is like our State or Territory I am gathering? We go through them, not the Federal Registrar General. Is the District where you get your Birth Certificate? As it should be the from the same place. The BC is like a receipt to the SOLB/COLB. It is a Trust on top of a Trust.
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Thanks, I will contact the General Register Office and see how to go about this. The government has put everything online and makes you jump through hoops to get anything done but I should be able to call them and find out how to request this.
Mel
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Hi
In the UK, I don’t believe there is a document titled ‘Certificate of Live Birth’.
Prior to ~2007 the Birth Notification Form (BNF01) was the form completed in the hospital to notify the Registrar etc. Details in the attachment.
Officially UK hospitals only keep birth records for 25 years. If anyone in the UK has managed to retrieve records older than 25 years, I’d be interested to know how. It doesn’t help that my birth hospital no longer exists. No doubt there are other records but I do not have this information.
The Registrar uses the BNF01 to prepare the Particulars of Birth form (Form 1, page 47 in the .._1987 doc). The parents/ informants check and sign this form while at the Registry Office.
It looks like the box in Form 1 is pretty much copied and pasted into the ‘Certified Copy Of An Entry’ or long form birth certificate.
Having spoken to the GRO and four Registrars, I think a letter and/ or correctly completed form is required to get any documents in the UK. This is where I’m at, if anyone has any further UK specific information or advice please chip in.
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I have to agree with you. The GRO told me to go to the NHS Trust for the area the hospital is in where I was born. Of course many of these trusts are “new” and have change many time over my 67 years. I doubt very much that I am likely to get a copy but it is nice you gave the form number as I could not even come up with that.
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why are people looking for certificates of live birth or the “original” “foundational” document? they know what they did and they acknowledge that by issuing a certificate, that’s prima facie evidence of the existence of a debt/trust/or whatever else it’s called… reason im asking is that i’ve seen it causing a lot of stress for a lot of people and i dont think its that important that you obtain it…quite frankly i think they would have easily gotten away with this fraud if they didnt overdo it with all the certificates social security numbers and all other implied contracts through compelled benefits.
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You can use the certificate of live birth, or the certificate your parents completed, as it is a document they have no jurisdiction over. If you use it in court the judges know they have no jurisdiction over the live being listed there. It’s just another paling you can put in the fence to put a barrier between us and them. Every step you do towards achieving this is optional and no one is being forced to do anything. You decide what will work for you. This forum just educates you about the choices you can make if you wish to. Here’s another option to enable you to prove you are living.
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i have no issue with people arming themselves with every bit of document or knowledge they can. i am genuinely trying to get to the bottom of it. It’s all part of the process i guess, if it offers some relief to some people then fair enough. but there has to be a definitive thing people can do to end it all and get out of babylon for good…and i think they know we’re alive That’s why they dont mess with us directly, thats why they need the ” legal person”, and registering you and issuing certificates is part of creating the legal persona they need….without COLB there is no taxpayer SSN strawman, the perfect scapegoat to get to the cash cow (COLB)……
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There’s a guy with a channel on youtube called gumshoe sleuth in the UK. He got off the grid and went totally private, but had to get back into the public because being totally private restricted his choices. He has some great videos.
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cool, ill look into it. and going off grid means you’re cut off from doing commerce unless enough people wake up and restore the de jure peoples republic/federation or whatever form of governance they prefer. but as for now there has to be an easier way to not get stuck with the liability in this jezebel system, and still be able to do commerce….. ill check out your guy and hopefully i pick up a thing or two…all the best n God bless…
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Do you know if the 3 people doing an affidavit as described have to be already in the private, or can they be folk in the public still? I ask because I note the necessity to use a thumb print. thanks!
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Hi Brandon, I used just ordinary people at my music club and I just asked them if they could witness a document for me. I showed them how to do it and I had a red stamp pad for them to use for their thumbprint, so it’s just every day people signing in their capacity as living men and women. You could get them to do the All rights reserved signature by preparing the documents with those parameters as in the non consent documents, so then all they have to do is sign in the correct place and affix their thumbprint or any finger print.
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If we have a copy of the source document and use it with corporations and courts, it’s also so they know that we know what they’re doing is fraud and fraud vitiates all.
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I’m following in your footsteps. Have you made any progress?
