[newguy1113]

why are people looking for certificates of live birth or the “original” “foundational” document? they know what they did and they acknowledge that by issuing a certificate, that’s prima facie evidence of the existence of a debt/trust/or whatever else it’s called… reason im asking is that i’ve seen it causing a lot of stress for a lot of people and i dont think its that important that you obtain it…quite frankly i think they would have easily gotten away with this fraud if they didnt overdo it with all the certificates social security numbers and all other implied contracts through compelled benefits.