[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

I’m not quite sure after reading this, exactly how he ascertained his fines were dealt with. Can you elaborate on this at all?

[Dave777]

I just got my knuckles slapped by LIP for sharing information I have learnt hear and saying it is the SE method. They don’t want to have anything to do with SE. I asked why we can’t learn from each other. They replied and said “well learn over there then” What they are saying is “it’s our way or the highway”

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

Wow that doesn’t sound like they are looking for connections with other freedom seekers, it sounds like they are more interested in getting exclusive clients. Sad that they can’t see beyond their own interests and let go of ego to enable them to utilise the strength of many freedom seekers uniting. The parasites certainly don’t have those sorts of roadblocks.

[jesse]

I seen a similar pattern with Tom Barnet. He seems to talk about how Mark is teaching the wrong methods and he has had to help people out of trouble for using Marks methods. Tom started his own platform so he’s probably chasing new members.

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

Amazing! That is so disrespectful, Tom initially learnt everything he knew in 2020 in the areas that Mark covers FROM Mark! It’s crazy how these people are behaving. Meanwhile Mark never criticises or puts down any one else who is striving to find solutions in this area of commerce. He has expressed in the past that he can’t understand why these people denigrate him or criticise him, he is just doing the best he can to help others out of the maze in sharing his successful experiences and methods.

[jesse]

Thats exactly right, i couldnt agree more. One thing i have noticed in the Natural law, equity, common law movement is that some groups always discredits others work at the same time wanting you to join there platform saying they have the real method. Mark never makes claims about others. Personally i have had sucsess with SE’s methods so im confident in the practice.

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

Good points and I’ve had successes with Mark’s methods as well.

[Peter Victor]

Hello, my name is Pete I am a new member, and I am interested in this subject. I say we should all share each other’s works and methods yes (true freedom) however, my belief is that we must respect peoples intellectual property firstly, and secondly stand alone on some things like deciding which method to use, and not always rely on an alleged guru to help us get out of the mud. I have had failures and successes since the 90’s with many different groups methods. But we should continue to remind ourselves the information we receive is only that, information. It is our responsibility to decide How to use the information. And some groups are young and immature in their ways. And some group leaders are not good at leading. Therefore we must not take it personally but take responsibility and not fully engage financially unless we Comprehend the information. No one can lead us, we all know this yet seem to keep relying on others to support us with advice. We should not see the people who create these wonderful methods as our leaders, just like the leaders in politics they could lead us down a ditch. And blaming one group or it’s leader is giving them power over you. We all have dominion and intelligence of mind to discern. I am all for using any method that works for me, but I take full ownership of my words and actions. And to add I believe the processes should be shared and we should all give each other any help we can. But again it is our responsibility how we use what we receive and what we give. Peace.

• This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by  Peter Victor.

[morag-janet-of-the-hill-family]

Excellent comments!

[Dave777]

Great advice Peter. Yes we do need to take full responsibility for of actions.