[Laura]

Upon looking for who I need to place in this potition for point 27:

27. The Registrar of <Debt Collecting Agency> is foresworn, under an Oath of Office and under its Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act (UK) 1900/01, to protect people and their property.

I have been looking into who is responsible for the Statement of account (Infringement Notice) I have been offered.
TMR looks responsible but going straight for the Queensland revenue office might make more sense and push a bit harder. It is the revenue after all.

It’s hard to decide.
TMR takes the payments but the Queensland revenue office is the receiver.

See the picture below
It is just the bot chat info, but the content is gathered from their official website.

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Thank you for these Morag, Much appreciated 🙂

[Laura]

Thats okay 🙂 The old address seems to be updated now. Good luck with your process 🙂

[Laura]

They seem to have appointments with a months wait.

I booked but I will have to create something for an abn before then.

If anyone has any useful information on what may benefit us I’m choosing how to go about this. That would be great

[Laura]

I just email them, and they provide an appointment.

I think it may be because he’s so inundated with requests they may only book appointments this way, as there aren’t many available bookings.

I could only get a 30min appointment next week

[Laura]

I just booked in. 🙂

Thanks Morag 😊

[Laura]

This is a great idea, Are there any groups in brisbane that you know of?

[Laura]

That would be great Brandon 😊. Not the issue itself though, and that’s a long trip, you have to drive all that way for trip just for them.

I’m located in the Chermside area. Nice and close to the magistrates courts haha

Well if I ever end up there, you are welcome to come along to mine. There may be others pop up on this thread too.

[Laura]

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You are right, I think role pay and scripts are going to help.

Thats awesome you were able to do this for someone. I’d love to learn what you guys have and help others.

Thank you

[Laura]

Does anyone know if we need to register with Equifax to be able to send mail to them to do their role

[Laura]

I’d love to attend for learning purposes. And not to ask question or badger anyone for info. Just for experience and notes

[Laura]

I did stupidly look in the Bing chat for the address which sent me to an old link. So the address should show up in equifax

[Laura]

I have booked an appointment with Mark on the 1st of Feb, as I have loads of questions.
My SPER Pay by date is the 12th of February so I’ll give myself lots of time to prepare my docs for mark to check , and send on the 2nd of Feb.

It would be great to get some answers for the above questions in the mean time, if anyone is able to assist. The above are questions just needed a bit of elaboration for beginners, that would have purchased the pack, so it wont take away from Marks efforts and content.

[Laura]

The first document for the BOE is the “Notice of Payment” (

Notice
of Payment and Notice and Demand to Verify Claim)

Question Context – This has been set out for commonwealth bank. A Bill of Exchange.

In this document template/example they refer to themselves as the Drawer, and Maker.In Marks webinars he explains the Maker and Drawer is for a promissory note, if they create the contract, which makes sense with a PN. However this document is for a BOE, but still refers to themselves as makers and drawers, not Drawees.

Question- Where they refer to them as the Lender, and Drawer, would I refer to SPER as the:
Issuer?
Payee?
or just say

State Penalties Enforcement Registry?
<i style=””><b style=”color: var(–bb-body-text-color); font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit;”> <font color=”rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)” face=”inherit”>For an </font>Enforcement<font color=”rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)” face=”inherit”> order, would I not be changing these to Drawee, as I have acknowledged myself as when completing the contract?</font>

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[Laura]

The instructions also say: The Bill of Exchange Number is a 16 digit number made up of your initials, date and time of mailing (eg; BOE<Initials270420221035>) or by using the registered post envelope number.

Is this a mistake?

I’m guessing they may mean a 15 digit number after BOE?
In the webinar I think Mark mentions a 12 digit number after BOE, being time-date-year 10:35, 25.01.2024 = 103525012024, which is 12 digits.

CUSIP says results in 9 characters
and a website says:

• The first six alphanumeric characters are known as the base or CUSIP-6, which identifies the issuer
• The seventh and eighth digits identify the type of security
• The ninth digit is a check digit that is automatically generated

[Laura]

2 questiond here:

I have received a letter as they have sent the fine to SPER.

Because I have sent the BOE amd completed the meeting today, should I just unclaimed the SPER mail?

I opened the side so I can make it look as though I never opened it.

Or should I just ignore and continue with holding my position or starting a 3 step process.

[Laura]

When I purchased my document pack I did not receive an instruction sheet.
After assuming this wasn’t included I watched the webinars 4 and 7 and compiled my documents to send referencing marks examples.

I did think it was strange there was no instruction sheet and the pack is set out differently to other module packs, so I did ask if there should be instructuons included but it was to late by the time they replied. I can see in point 10 of the instruction sheet, there should have been a ““Notice of Temporary
Appointment of Fiduciary” which should have been sent along with payment (BOE), and a “Notice of Payment Delivered
to <Name of Payee>” to be sent to Equifax.

I can also see on point 14 of the instruction sheet there should be a “Certificate of Protest” for our meeting listed on the BOE and Default and Liability. This also has not been included in the module 7 document pack. I contacted them as my meeting is coming up this Thursday, but I am concerned we will not receive this on time as it can take a few days for a reply if they are busy.

Q – Can someone possibly provide me the “certificate of protest”, in private message?
I can supply a screenshot of my purchase of the module 7 documents, so you know I did purchase them quite a while ago, they are just missing some documents. hence no instruction sheet until now.

Q – Will I still be able to send to Equifax after the first process?
And I’m guessing, because we will be having the meeting this Thursday the “Notice of Temporary Appointment of Fiduciary” can’t be used now. Is there anything I should do to cover this in another way?

[Laura]

Test reply only. Please disregard.

[Laura]

This is a test reply. Please disregard.

[Laura]

That’s great. So as long as I have provided them a date and location to present the BOE for payment. Then that should be fine. It’s within 24 months.

Thanks again Morag 🙂

[Laura]

Meeting place for “default and liability clause” and “BOE”.

Marks example of the Default and Liability clause says: the 8th day of November.
And his BOE says the 8th day of December.
The documents were sent on the 22nd November.

My document pack did not include the BOE instructions sheet, so I referenced the BOE from his example but only referenced the BOE itself for both.
So, I have send my “BOE” and “Default and Liability” with the same meeting date and time being 16 days after the date I sent the documents.

Q: I don’t understand how the Default and lability meeting place date would be before the documents are sent. I guess I have missed a first step?

Q: Is my BOE invalid because I have given them and place and time to meet after 14 days pf sending the notice?

[Laura]

Lovely :), Ill leave them out then, thank you

[Laura]

Hi guys

(also a novice question, haha)

To start with, Happy New Year!! 😃

Cover letter Example, or link to examples

I was hoping someone may be able to share an example of a cover letter that I can reference to apologize for receiving the statement of account late? as well as ask them to pass the BOE and document to the correct party or notify me of who the correct party is, just incase I have sent to, and addressed the wrong person or department. “office found” may not be sufficient when actually sending the payment instrument (“BOE”) to the correct payee. Mark mentions it does need to go to the correct department.
Any example cover letter I could reference to learn the layout and wording would be great, it doesn’t have to be relevant to my exact questions, as it is just for my understanding of how a cover letter is written when accompanying the type of documents I’m sending.

From my understanding I can put together a cover letter with the following:
– My details on the right
– Their details on the left, with a date
– Re: Infringement details and numbers for reference
– Address the chief financial officer by name

– Title the document “Cover letter”? (Any other suggestions, this sounds a bit basic)

– Add “office found” under the title of the document?

– By (signature), name and all rights reserved at the end

” – Order of placement in documents to send – I’m guessing the cover letter would be the first document, after the certificate of mailing?

The modules contain the processes and documents, but not so much cover letters as it is an optional add on depending on whether it is needed or not.
I couldn’t seem to find one but if any one has noticed a cover letter example in the Modules 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 11, 17, 36, 43, 56, 69, PP1, please let me know.

Thanks

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[Laura]

Acknowledging parties, adding a party: Can I write another party on the statement of account? E.g. my infringement says “Department of Main Roads”, but does not say TMR. Could I write TMR on the form and also Acknowledge them as a party? Or is it enough to add them to the default and liability doc without that name being on the notice?

They have also only written “LAURA ADAMS” on the infringement. Not “LAURA CLAIR ADAMS”, “Miss Adams”, and “Laura Clair Adams”.

Acknowledging parties, nominated driver:

If another name is on the statement of account should I still acknowledge them as a party or is this up to me?

e.g. I was nominated as a driver for an infringement. As I was driving another person’s car, so their upper case name is mentioned once on the statement. Q- Do I need to Acknowledge them as a party? Or can I leave them out as they are not a payee?

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[Laura]

Who Receives Payment for Infringements

For others doing a BOE for the original Infringement notice or offer to contract.
I Searched BPAY for the recipient of the payment using the biller code on the infringement notice, and it says Transport and Main Roads Infrngement Notice, so I will direct my BOE and mail to them.

You can search here: http://www.bpay.com.au/BillerLookupResults/

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I’m using the Module 7 and module 4 because I have needed both to explain the process of the BOE and to complete a statement of account.

I didn’t word the infringement documents question well. I meant, I received the infringement as 3 pages. The fine itself is 2 pages back to back. Then another page which is a declaration they send along with the notice to nominate another driver if needed. I wasn’t sure if I just leave the declaration out of the statement of account when I add to it it.

Another question I just thought of (my questions are endless 😬), my partner nominated me because I was driving his car so his all caps name is mentioned once on the infringement. Should I acknowledge him as a party or just leave him out?

[Laura]

Ill add a pic of my infringement with the accompanied declaration they sent for nominating another driver. I may or may not need to include the declaration page, but I’m unsure.

When acknowledging parties, can I write the party onto the statement of account?
In my case they have listed “the Department of Transport and Main Roads” on the infrngment, but they do not have ‘TMR’, or “Transport and Main Roads”. I checked BPAY to see who the biller code belongs too, and it says Transport and Main Roads.

[Laura]

The first 2 pages are the back to back pages of the Infringement (statement of account). The 3rd page is what they send with these fines, to allow you to nominate another person.

[Laura]

Q1 – Mark mentions we need to reply to a statement of account within 3 days to complete the contract. I have received my infringement notice quite a while ago, Could I possibly write the received date to be within 3 days of sending it? If I can, would I then apologies as I had been away and had not received the statement until that date?

Q2 – I have just noticed, the infringement documents are all individual. They do not show a page 1 of 3. The infringement and second page are printed back to back on one piece of paper, but the statutory declaration (to elect someone else) is separate. Would I still add all 3 of these as the contract, or leave the declaration out? This sounds like a no brainer, I’m assuming I add all of them but you never know. I have to add page numbers to the contract anyway

Q3 – What is the My ref no: on the “Notice of Payment” for the BOE?
the one to the right under the name and address?
He mentions a reference number in the PN webinar being the Birth year with the birth registration number on the birth certificate, is this the same. But Mark has put MAP000121112072 in the My Ref No: for the BOE.

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[Laura]

Will do, thanks again Morag 😊

[Laura]

If anyone has attempted a BOE for a road camera safety fine and have addressed them instead of allowing it to go to SPER first, would you have any advice or examples of who Iand how I should address for the infringement, or an example of a BOE completed for the FAMD or QRO.

This is the BOE example for SPER :

AND ADDITIONAL ENDORSEMENTS FOR ACCOUNT/2012 Queensland Government, Queensland Revenue Office Party ID 54782487 Contact ID 34404854

Note – The party ID, and Contact ID are located to the trop right of the example SPER Statement

My attempt at adding the infringement info “ADD ADDITIONAL ENDORSEMENTS FOR ACCOUNT/2024 Queensland Government, Queensland Revenue Office, Fine Administration and Management division Infringement Notice Number 2132155597 Customer Number 108758603 Full Payment Reference Number 1021019961255

These numbers I have included are circled in the picture of my fine in yellow.

I’m also addressing Simon McKee who is the commissioner of the Queensland revenue office, and also the registrar of SPER. This may be helpful for anyone else addressing them.

Simon McKee

The commissioner

Queensland Revenure Office

1 william street, Brisbane, Queensland, 4000

Simon McKee

The Registrar

State Penalties Enforcement Registry

GPO Box 1387, Brisbane, Queensland 4000

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HI Morag
Thats great. I have actually made myself available for this one so I am glad its relevant to my questions. Thank you 🙂 as always 😀

[Laura]

I have the Officers Number on the infringement because he pulled me over.
What is in the module 19, Is it more specific to this type of infringement? Do they do an unclaimed process

[Laura]

I actually don’t have that module but cant afford another one at the moment so I’ll just have to go with the other modules I guess.

[Laura]

There’s no webinar for module 19 either, but I can use 36 instead.
My partner opened my infringement which was really frustrating because I purposefully don’t open them now. I do remember either you or Ant saying you could tape it up and write a letter explaining I mistakenly opened it thinking it was something else.
I could try this, or just print the unclaimed on the form and do the notice of conditional acceptance, such an effort though haha

[Laura]

Yes my home state is QLD.

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[Laura]

Hey Morag

Yes I do have that module 😀

Thank you for these, much appreciated as always.

I’ll get started on the process now

[Laura]

Yes and right on time 🙂

[Laura]

it was fixed by Monday, they didn’t reply, but I’m assuming they just fixed it

[Laura]

I have written this down until to glitch is fixed, so thank you so much Glengs.
I can’t even watch the webinars at the moment so I’m flying blind for now.

[Laura]

Hi Glengs, Yes, I actually tried to purchase the module 18, but the SE system is showing a 404 error at the moment so I cant purchase anything. I have tried throughout the day with no sucess. Bad timing on a weekend to have a technical error.

Yes I really need to watch the courses, thank you for this 🙂

I was going to ask if anyone knows.
I also received an email today from SPER as well. However, I haven’t been responding to the emails at all except in my estoppels, just to explain I received the email but it is not considered a valid response.
Should I continue just referencing them in my estoppel, and not reply to an email?

[Laura]

Again, thank you Morag 🙂

[Laura]

Perfect, I printed everything already with 7 days, so I’m glad you suggested this haha. Thanks

[Laura]

Well that is great, I hope this happens. 🙂

[Laura]

Module 4 webinar explains how to fill out a statement of account. Then the BOE module explains the supporting documents.

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[Laura]

You could check out the webinars
They do have document packs you purchase, but if you scroll down you can see the webinars for free breaking down the process.

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[Laura]

Hi Lyn

I Actually fine tuned my process and sent a BOE to SPER as well. It is a new contract and it was fresh in my head from the original TMR infringement.

They have replied by email, to my postal address, and also to my post box, so I’m guessing I have done a decent job of the BOE if they a trying these tactics.

I directed them to send communication to my PO Box, which means I cannot reply to the email, or letter sent to my home address as they are invalid, and I would be agreeing to a new method of contract that overrides my command to sent replies to my PO Box to be considered valid.

I am now beginning the estoppel to back up my BOE, as they haven’t replied to the questions, or provided evidence they are who they say they are, in my notice.

Then I can continue to send each step until the estoppel is complete 🙂

[Laura]

I can’t seem to book one from this website. At the moment only Zoltan is available.
Do you know if mark is still doing consults?

[Laura]

Thanks Melissa 🙂

Did you sign with an all rights reserved signature? I’m wondering if that’s what may have clued them in.