[newguy1113]

Of course the lawyers advised her to go through with the voluntary liquidation, they’re members of the private bar. that’s exactly where they want her. they’re foreclosing on her because she didn’t rebut the presumption of trusteeship and whoever is foreclosing on her being beneficiary. think of it in terms of trusts and assume your rightful role as a beneficiary and express the trust and then let them breach. they hold her property, the complaint, loan contract, tax liability or whatever instrument they are using to bring an action against her, that is her property(as long as it has “her name” on it) and whoever is in possession of it has the obligation to perform. It is a perfect blend of commerce and trust law, they want you to focus on the debtor/creditor relationship so they can just presume you are a debtor because your strawman is a debt transmitter with no standing. sending in promissory notes and poorly executed a4v’s is exactly what they want cos you’re giving them more securities/money and it demonstrates you don’t quite understand whats going on yet, a win-win situation for them. . buy yourself time and study and gather evidence since you might not be able to pull off holding them accountable. look into the accounting that’s where they’re robbing her and all of us. a bankruptcy discharges debt and there has to be offsetting entries, and they always hide the second set of books, the accounts payable(as opposed to receivables). since every transaction adds up to zero by the end of each business day in this diabolical system how can you owe a debt? and since they have no capacity to issue credits and only she can provide commercial energy then if there’s an outstanding debt then it can be owed to only one person, her. understand what is going on first then you will move to the next step which is enforcement, for now, defend yourself with the arsenal in your possession. I’m not an expert on this so don’t construe this as a course of action or legal advice. we will get there eventually, the ones who got out left a trail of crumbs for us to follow and solutions empowerment is one of them…..you’re on that path, good luck to your sister.

[newguy1113]

They are not talking to you, they are addressing the legal fiction that signed up for a license that they have authority over because you haven’t taken control yet. Any response without the proper status is futile because you are considered a co-trustee/government employee and not following the trust indenture, which is a breach of trust and will be detrimental to your “person” the presumed co-trustee. All these letters do nothing because they are under no obligation to reply or rebut your questions, you cannot get a default judgement against them either without the proper status.

but you could try it for now until you work your way to competence, they might back off simply cos they know you know what they are doing, but i wouldn’t rely on that given the tyranny in the works especially since this is a firearm issue.

[newguy1113]

They’re responding to the straw-man not you/the living. your enquiries put you firmly in their jurisdiction. A free man/woman or true creditor doesn’t inquire about things from a debtor/ dead corporation. arguing with them about why you should not be paying taxes is like walking into a night club and telling them the music is too loud. you are in the wrong domain. I once mailed off some paperwork to the Gov making similar claims of sovereignty and pointing out the constructive fraud n so on, complete with an affidavit of life. I got a courtesy call from someone with a delegation of authority who “acknowledged” and “appreciated what i was trying to do” and that i was “going about it the wrong way”. I was furious n dissapointed at first cos i thought i had nailed it, but after getting back to work i realised they were right, and in a way, they were trying to help me cos they were under no obligation to respond. So keep working on your understanding of how the system works n it will slowly come to you. I also get why gurus don’t give us the whole story cos we wouldn’t understand and we run off half-baked filling paperwork we don’t understand. I’d rather have understanding than perfect templates and answers..cos i believe its a lot easier than we make it seem

[newguy1113]

ok, this isnt in relation to the promisorry note anymore. i already did that n i used the CRN and TFN i think it worked after a little administrative process n back and forth.. its been a couple month since i heard from them so thats good…im asking about these numbers for something else im working on, thats why im trying to find out which holds more weight i know theyre all fraudulent instruments that end up in the same place….

[newguy1113]

thanks for your replies. It’s really tricky with all these numbers, the Australian system is really shifty and confusing, i guess they avoided making it easy like in the states…which would you say is superior between the two?

[newguy1113]

hey what exactly is the equivalent of the social security number in australia? the customer reference number or the TFN? just need to know for sure. thanks

[newguy1113]

This isn’t to answer your question, this is just my opinion as it relates to the topic in general. people should be taking steps to get out of this fraudulent system for good, at least at an individual level since 95% of the country has been irreversibly psychologically damaged. this is no way to live. as long as people have licenses and all these other contracts that create what the americans call “minimum contacts”, its still slavery….. and all men are either free men or slaves. there is no in between, personally i believe in total defeat or total victory. as the maxim goes peace is to be secured by victory, not negotiations………i think the best thing that could happen for this country is if somehow everyone lost their jobs on the same day, just for a month. so people can lift up their heads and see what’s going on around them. Quite frankly most jobs in this country are a front to keep this elaborate scam going. That’s why you will never not have jobs because it would be catastrophic to them….and thats why they mess with peoples heads almost on a daily basis about unemployment rates so people cling on to them for dear life….

[newguy1113]

what if you’ve opened the mail containing the summons and wish to return it tot the police station with the non consent statements?

[newguy1113]

hey, does anyone have a list of the 6 acts that constitute the equivalent of the house joint resolution 192 in australia? i saw it on one of the marks notes on that webinar about promissory notes but can’t locate it anymore. thanks.

btw i dont know how to start a new forum that’s why im asking under your thread…

[newguy1113]

these are the same experts that brought you covid and the vaccines….glad he bounced back after all he went through. That’s a tough mentality.

[newguy1113]

interesting stuff. i was thinking of doing the accepted 4 value process to discharge an electric bill, but then i thought what if in the process they decide to cut the power off? anyone had this happen?….I’m gonna have to do more studying before going for it.

[newguy1113]

i cant even download the files, the attachment i got had just the certificate of mailing,restarted the process and paid for another one 5 bucks still the same, it says file is corrupted, and i cant get a reply from anyone. I’ve messaged the help center multiple times and nothing. has anyone here encountered a similar issue cos past discussion board topics cant help.

[newguy1113]

hey sorry im new to SE i was filling the vaccine non-consent also and wanted to know how i can add 4 kids, it currently has room for 3 kids. thanks

[newguy1113]

P.S If the parties on the ppsr are wrong the whole thing collapses and reverts back to the strawman.

[newguy1113]

Hi

Accusing them of fraud is dishonourable, profitable to them and an exercise in futility. You also can’t sustain an accusation of fraud or treason because you have a remedy outside the court, even if you took them to court the judge would throw it out for failure to state claim upon which relief can be granted, if they don’t order a psych evaluation and lock you up.

They don’t make it easy cos there are minimum contacts set up like land mines, all these compelled benefits. Also, you accepted a benefit by getting a license, and he who accepts a benefit must bear the burden.

So, you need to take control of your estate so the record can be corrected at the ATO as well, rebutting the presumptions of trusteeship/debtor/surety and returning to competency. At the moment you’re communicating with them as an accommodating party (cos you didn’t qualify your signature when you signed up for the benefit), a trustee who has gone rogue.

Learning the foundations of this organised commercial fraud is key. That would be my main focus if i were you while trying what you are currently doing to hold them off. We’re just learning like everyone else here, and the understanding of what is going on first, i believe, is key. It’s quite simple what they are doing and its uniform across the board, once you understand one transaction you can understand it all.

All the best and God bless.

[newguy1113]

yea i’ve heard of what you’re talking about and it makes alot of sense and quiet frankly one of the best ways of fighting them instead of giving them more credit through money orders and promissory notes, but whatever works as you work your way up. They’re bullying this individual cos they know they might not know the contract the debt collectors bought is a financial asset (otherwise they wouldn’t have paid for it) presumed an abandoned tax exempt original issue. It’s a path worth exploring along with the processes on here to help you call their bluff….any knowledge is better than no knowledge.

[newguy1113]

Amen to that.

Mankind will rise and overcome this evil that has lurked amongst us for centuries. I believe theres levels to this awakening process and in the fight against these frauds, we’re grateful to all those who risked everything to make everyone aware of its existence and the remedies provided… but they can only take us so far, its upto each wo/man depending on their principles to choose what they are willing to tolerate or not….what the whole “truth movement” is lacking are those who see this for what it truly is, a wicked crime perpertrated on all of mankind and not some educational/learning curve that you need to overccome, I find the idea of proving my competence to a bunch of crooks detestable…the awareness of it alone should be enough to put an end to it…anyway brother, Godspeed…

[newguy1113]

I think you’re on the right path if you’re thinking of getting out completely, even if it’s empty handed and to be left alone and not bothered by these crooks. the entire system is fraudulent and some people don’t want to participate or enable this fraud. like you said it’s frustrating dealing with them. remaining honorable in the face of dishonorable thieves and frustratingly clueless public servants… in the ideal world the number of people who are aware could put an end to this crime if they weren’t so psychologically damaged to have this subconscious paralysing fear of authority. you can’t commit fraud and then threaten people, that alone should be cause for concern and action for a society with self-respecting men with dignity. I know people can get out, though I haven’t done it yet. because public and private do not mix, and they cannot compell you to perform without your consent and you’ve expressed your will and desire to terminate this feudal relationship with this de facto government or corporation/mafia whatever they are..for a de facto to exist their must be a de jure, if you make enough noise they’ll have to open the door eventually. and I think the most important thing is to TRULY KNOW THYSELF. that is the one thing no one can deny and no competence test or trickery can induce doubt or fear of these criminals…the way I see it, its total victory or total defeat, if youre scared go back into the matrix or do that secured party creditor stuff for the forseeable future…..anyway all the best and have no fear. they’re just like any other criminal, they have no standing and if they resort to doing criminal stuff to you, you also win cos then they will know theyre not upstanding citizens that they masquerade to be.

[newguy1113]

I’m not sure, on the promissory note mark made the TFN was the EIN which is like our ABN, so you might be right…

[newguy1113]

thanks for the tips. ive been watching the webinars,(particularly holding your position) and slowly but surely starting to understand things that sounded like foreign language a few weeks back. glad i found solutions empowerment, ive been looking and nothing was as practical and applicable to australia as this site….

[newguy1113]

fair enough. Thanks a lot for your help. God bless

[newguy1113]

that would be great thanks, ill go over them as i wait for the technical team to respond. just so i get an idea and if i can edit them ill do that. thanks again you seem to be the only one responding and helping…

[newguy1113]

hey thanks for ur response…im after the vaccine non-consent round 1 documents, it would be great if someone could send me theirs, i dont mind filling in my details..and yes iam in australia..any idea why its only sending one attachment file that wont open?