[DOJ]

Hi all , I’ve just followed this process to remove myself from the AEC by sending it back 3 times. Don’t answer no caller ID numbers if your not comfortable if you do answer just politely tell them I don’t conduct business over the phone and all offers need to be sent via Australia Post .

[DOJ]

That’s a great document morag , do I have your permission to share this with others ? It’s got a great easy example on how things work which I think would benefit those beginning to get their head around how the system works ?

[DOJ]

So true Morag , I’ve got my speeding camera fine on the back foot now by asking the govcorp agent sending me the fine “Is it a criminal or a civil matter ?” They come back and stated “It’s a criminal matter” which now puts us in the position of asking “who is claiming to be the Victim “? . This is where it goes down hill for the govcorp agent as they can’t act as the injured party so it’s a matter of holding your position until they have no where to go and withdraw the fine or they act as a false Victim or witness and liable to be sued for malfeasance in public office . It’s amazing how this works when you know how they operate and ask the right questions which exposes their fraud .

[DOJ]

😀😀

[DOJ]

I’ve only had success with these types of issues by starting with a conditional acceptance notice but asking them to provide a copy of the contract entered into with both parties signature otherwise these contracts may be taken as solicitation ,at the end of the day that’s all they are they are just offers to do business with a corporation.

To give you one of many examples I’ve had dealing with these successfully is basically

1. Accept the invoice/ fine on the basis that you require a copy of the contract and once received your happy to settle the account immediately. (there is no wet ink signed contract ) this puts you automatically in the Position of “We will need to prove any claims made that we agreed to do business with you by way of a legitimate contract which I require to be provided within 14 days.

2. They will try and give you some rubbish explanation for you were agreeing to pay the tolls when you travelled along the sign posted Road etc.

3 . Like they do to us when you don’t get the response required

Send a second letter titled “ default notice.” reminding the corporation that you’re still awaiting for the contract to be sent through as per previously so the matter can be settled with urgency.

3 after they’ve sent you some more nonsense which doesn’t prove anything that’s when you put the final nail in the coffin so to speak and send them the third notice being a default agreement notice.

Notice should state that no contract has been produced so the matter can be settled honourably and also that it confirms to contract law or the rules of equity in the matter . As a result of the failure to provide evidence on their claims any future correspondence will be taken as an error or vexatious. Should they continue to Harris or claim money is owed it will be taken as harassment and trespass which my result.Compensation required should they fail to produce the evidence requested and continue to make threats with menace?

If successful don’t expect to receive a letter confirming that you don’t have to pay. They normally just go away and leave you alone after that if you’ve executed your communications with them properly.

Keep us posted on how you go!

Regards

Pete

[DOJ]

Thanks Morag ,

I think Mark was notified at the last zoom regarding an IT issue , hopefully that’s resolved now ? can you confirm if you saw my photo attached my recent post on the AEC removal process ?

[DOJ]

Thanks Morag.

Much appreciated.

Regards

Pete

[DOJ]

your welcome Morag , 😃

[DOJ]

Your most welcome Adam, I can almost guarantee the letter for you to open from them will be an invoice (new contract ), it should work like a charm if you follow the 3 RTS process and also saves any nonsense of an unpaid/ dishonored account on any ledgers or a false claim for money owing.