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Has anyone had any success asking for a CoO/CoM for a car in Australia? We are looking to pay cash/money order for a new car and it’s the perfect opportunity to ask. Any advice welcome. Not keen to paint a target on my car with UCC/ private/no plates but we have to start somewhere. Surely with so many personalised plates, they wouldn’t stand out as much and I have reserved all my rights. See what happens.
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Hi Tim. Sorry to take so long to respond. I’m willing to assist if I can. I followed Mark’s directions, completed the Affidavit of Expenses (witnessed by JP), completed the return as an AGENT IN COMMERCE and autographed it, sent amendment forms for the previous years and they credited all withheld tax for the previous few years.
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I followed instructions for individual tax return and received credits for all PAYG paid in the previous 3 years, so Mark’s process works perfectly for individuals. I deposited 3 cheques for half the credits as they retained the rest for a partnership ‘debt’. It gets messy with the Integrated Client Account if there is an outstanding amount in a linked partnership/trust/business account. My advice is to zero any business account first. They refused to acknowledge the PN, just kept adding illegal/unlawful interest charges so I sent an adjusted return for last year to cover the amount, and will do so again this year for anything remaining, then do our individual accounts. They also insisted upon a partnership return for partnership, and did not accept individual returns.
By the way, my daughter had a full tax refund 2023 by increasing her expenses to take the ‘income’ below the threshold, with her usual signature.
The legal entity is an tax collector/agent for the ATO. It exists only on paper. Know this fact and you’ll put everything in perspective. A paper fiction cannot marry or have offspring, doesn’t need medicare so the medicare levy is not applicable. There may be push back but be prepared to go to Round 2 and Round 3 if necessary.
Curious, but I have found myself named as beneficiary to the TFN trust account. It’s in ALL CAPS but LYN OF THE MANGAN FAMILY is BENEFICIARY under Authorised Representatives in MyGov. I checked to make sure the accountant wasn’t listed. Any thoughts on that?
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Well done, Brian. I hadn’t logged into ATO for years, but see LYN OF THE MANGAN FAMILY, is listed as BENEFICIARY under authorized contacts on the TFN account. It’s in ALL CAPS but still…? There is another Unknown contact too so I will call and ask some questions. Has anyone else seen this?
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This reply was modified 11 months, 3 weeks ago by Lyn Mangan.
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The magic 3. 3 days. A great many contract conditions are based on the Bible. It’s essential we reply within 72 hours of receiving any corporate correspondence- or at least date it accordingly in order to decline to contract or amend the conditions of any tacit agreement we were deemed to have (accidentally) made. ie: Stamp it ‘Received 1/2/24’ and date your reply no later than 4/2/24. I believe giving them 14-21 days or even 28 days is for us to act in honour to give them ample time to reply, but cheques/money orders/A4V must be returned within 3 days for them to decline our offer to discharge, otherwise they keep it and the alleged ‘debt’ is discharged by default.
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I cannot help at all, but I will follow with interest. Hope you find remedy.
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I’ve heard that you can close the letter again and say it was opened accidentally. I returned a letter like that, and I don’t believe they responded after that.
I’m following with interest. I have received several notices from the QLD Treasury/Govcorp but returned them all, unclaimed. Then I received second notices addressed to the upper/lower case name or to the neighbour’s address – RTS again. I have received several texts from several numbers allegedly from SPER having difficulty contacting me, to which I sent 3 notices and a Private Judgement after which the number ceased to operate, ‘unattended’ or blocked my texts. Texts started on 3rd January and last I received was dated 14th February. I don’t believe they are finished – see what happens next. See below:
Return to sender/Trustee.
No lawful consent.
No lawful contract.
Returned for cause without dishonour.
Without prejudice.
All Rights reserved.
UCC 1- 308
UCC 1 -103
We thank you for your offer to contract but We do not understand. We do not do business over the phone. Before making further contact, please provide the wet ink signature contract between ourselves and SPER being a third party interloper, signed by both SPER and ourselves, stipulating where We ordered goods and services from SPER. Also provide the evidentiary documentation of a guilty verdict against the living woman, :lyn: as no fines or penalties can be imposed without a guilty verdict delivered by those with judicial authority. Failure, neglect or refusal to do so will affirm your tacit agreement that no such contract exists and the matter is thereby settled and closed. Our bank manager is notified that if any funds are withdrawn, purloined, stolen or transferred to any entity without Our express consent it will be treated as theft of Our private property. Any further contact will be charged according to the following fee schedule as stipulated below. In the absence of an individual, the head of SPER will be invoiced and held liable in their private capacity. Continued attempts to contact us without providing the evidence as stipulated may be presumed to be harassment and may be reported.
Schedule of Fees:
1. Per text: 100 Australian dollars
2. Phone call or message: 2000
Australian dollars
3. Letter /page: 1000
Australian dollars
4. Breach of privacy, sharing private data: 1 million
Australian dollars per incident
5. Per court attendance: 1 million Australian dollars/day
6.Negative impact or feedback in credit rating: 1 million
Australian dollars
7. Incidental time wasting, research, or other tasks:
1000 Australian dollars/hour
Kind regards
:lyn:
Hi Lyn, SPER attempted to call, however could not reach you. Please visit SPER online or call 1300185619. SPER Party ID: xxxxxxxx
Final Notice of Default, CEASE AND DESIST. Dear Trustee/3rd party interloper,
We thank you for your offer to contract but We do not understand. Please provide the responsible wo/man’s details so We may invoice the party for any harm or loss caused to Lyn: such as negative impact and breach of privacy. Failing to do so, a lien may be placed against the head of SPER. We do not do business over the phone. SPER failed to provide the wet ink signature contract signed by Ourselves and SPER, a third party interloper, stipulating where We ordered goods and services from SPER, and further failed to provide the evidentiary documentation of a guilty verdict against the living woman, :Lyn:, therefore no fines or penalties can be imposed without a guilty verdict delivered by those with judicial authority. SPER’s failure, neglect or refusal to do so affirmed SPER’s tacit agreement that no such contract exists and the matter is thereby settled and closed. Our bank manager is notified that if any funds are withdrawn, purloined, stolen or transferred to any entity without Our express consent it will be treated as theft of Our private property. Loss of points or licence imposed by SPER will be treated as trespass, loss or harm caused to Lyn: Any further contact will be charged according to the fee schedule attached. Attempts to contact us without providing the evidence as stipulated may be presumed to be harassment and may be reported.
We do not consent to contract.
Kind regards
By: Lyn: Mangan, Beneficiary
All Rights Reserved
Without Prejudice
UCC 1-308
Schedule of Fees:
1. Per text: 100 Australian dollars
2. Phone call or message: 2000
Australian dollars
3. Letter /page: 1000
Australian dollars
4. Breach of privacy, sharing private data: 1 million
Australian dollars per incident
5. Per court attendance: 1 million Australian dollars/day
6.Negative impact – including points/ licence loss or feedback in credit rating: 1 million
Australian dollars
7. Time wasting, etc: 1000 Australian dollars/hr
This number is not monitored, to contact SPER please call 1300 185 619 or go online at qld.gov.au/sper
Private Judgement
We thank you for your offer to contract but We do not understand. We do not do business over the phone. As SPER has failed, neglected or refused to provide the wet ink signature contract between ourselves and SPER, a third party interloper, signed by both SPER and ourselves, stipulating where We ordered goods and services from SPER, and failed, refused or neglected to provide the evidentiary documentation of a guilty verdict against the living woman, :lyn: no fines or penalties can be imposed without a guilty verdict delivered by those with judicial authority. SPER’s failure, neglect or refusal to do so affirmed SPER’s tacit agreement that no such contract exists and the matter is thereby settled and closed. Our bank manager is notified that if any funds are withdrawn, purloined, stolen or transferred to any entity without Our express consent it will be treated as theft of Our private property. As the State owns the driver licence and any title to our automobiles, is the State not the Trustee? We are the Beneficiary. Any further contact will be charged according to the following fee schedule as stipulated below. In the absence of an individual, the head of SPER will be invoiced and held liable in their private capacity. Further attempts to contact us without providing the evidence as stipulated is evidence of attempts to force or compel performance through malice, is harassment and may be reported.
Schedule of Fees:
1. Per text: 100 Australian dollars
2. Phone call or message: 2000
Australian dollars
3. Letter /page: 1000
Australian dollars
4. Breach of privacy, sharing private data: 1 million
Australian dollars per incident
5. Per court attendance: 1 million Australian dollars/day
6.Negative impact or feedback in credit rating: 1 million
Australian dollars
7. Incidental time wasting, research, or other tasks:
1000 Australian dollars/hour
8. Loss of points- $1,000/point
Kind regards
:lyn:
This number will be blocked and reported as spam – I blocked all their numbers now.
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Yes, that’s a generic letter they send out to any challenges. Note well that a man or woman did not send it and it has not rebutted your affidavit, nor answered any of your questions.
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If this is a non-registered trust, how would the bank manager “check” on it? I believe he is making an unsubstantiated claim. He refused to give contact details of a superior or the department where he got his information and refused to give any details as to what was unacceptable. I may call Head Office at Heritage
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I received the ticket and code but the zoom link doesn’t display.
The zoom link for last week only showed up last night so I don’t know what is happening
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My apologies, Brian. Yet again, I have no link to access Zoom so I miss out again.
Maybe someone else can post your question.
Cheers
Lyn
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Hi Brian,
I have issues connecting but I intend to watch tonight’s Zoom, and shall offer your question when I do. I have it copied ready to paste into the chat.
Cheers
Lyn
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I am following this post as we had difficulty at Heritage. I have banked for 40 years with Heritage, but the bank manager said when he “checked into” the trust, he claims it doesn’t come under Australian laws. I questioned him, but don’t know how he could ‘check into’ an unregistered trust and asked him how he did that. No reply. Unless we change something in the trust (but he won’t tell me what), he’s not touching it.
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Isn’t an audit another offer to contract?
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Has she completed her affidavit and sent it in with her return? If so, there should have been a cover letter with it where she states that she only does business in writing, along with other matters. I received a full return of all ‘income tax’ for myself following this procedure, but they stole half of it by “Integrated Client account” to a partnership debt which was discharged by money order. We are still battling that one, but I need to complete my husband’s tax, then we may have remedy.
An audit is an offer to contract. Is it not true that they cannot come onto her property to conduct any audit without her consent? I’d be asking Mark for more information.
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I love Bill’s videos. He explains events very clearly with instructions as to how to evade issues.
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I’ve banked with Heritage for over 40 years, so when I took the trust deed in, I was surprised they needed a few days to process it. A week later, I had a phone call from the bank Johnny to say they couldn’t open it. He apparently called ‘someone’ to check because he said the Trust was tax exempt. I said, ‘Really? That’s a shame. We’ll have to take our business elsewhere.” He said that was just for the trust account, so I said I’d pick up the cheque as I had a few questions.
I asked where it said it was tax exempt, and he bumbled through the deed – he photocopied the whole deed, not just the front and back pages. It’s bank policy now? Eventually, he found the section about sustenance being exempt because he didn’t like the way it read. I assured him every red cent that goes into the account will have been taxed before it enters the account, so what’s the problem? ‘Oh, yes,’ he said. ‘They make sure they tax everything!’ I asked if there is any stipulated exemption on income tax in the deed, to which he agreed there was no such statement. I also said, so Heritage don’t open trust accounts for charities, or a trust account for a child or a pet? He wasn’t sure what to say to that.
He pointed out the discretionary powers, to which I answered yes, we will have the discretion to distribute funds as we see fit. Isn’t that what a discretionary trustee does?
So I asked for a new application in case I did something wrong, because I’m assured Heritage accept this product. “Who told you that?” I told him other customers I know and the trust makers.
He then pointed out the section on foreign entities/interference, to which I replied, “Isn’t that a good thing? We don’t want foreign bodies to interfere with our trust. Would you?” to which he had no reply.
He seemed very nervous, and I asked for his superior and their contact number to whom he referred, so I could speak with them, but then he didn’t know who I meant. He still hasn’t told me that information, so I wonder if I should call head office and speak with someone there. I suspect he read it and doesn’t feel confident as they’ve probably been warned about trusts and foundations. He seemed to be looking for excuses to put me off, but I’ll persevere. We’d prefer to stay with them if we can. I’ll return next week in the nicest possible way, and see how we go, otherwise all our savings may go and we’ll have to take our self managed Heritage super accounts to another bank as we hoped to run them through the Trust account.
The bank was very busy, by the way with lots of people opening accounts and withdrawing cash, so I’ll try again, and see what happens.
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I’d like to share the response I sent to the Bill. Imagine if a million people wrote to say, ‘I do not consent’? Would that make an impact?
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It seems to only refer to treating lumpy skin disease – LSD (lol). I wouldn’t trust any of them now. There are moves to ban any mRNA treatment in some states in USA.
From July 2023
https://animalhealthaustralia.com.au/vaccines-for-lumpy-skin-disease-where-are-we-at/
From MLA Meat & Livestock in May
animalhealthaustralia.com.au
Vaccines for Lumpy Skin Disease: where are we at? - Animal Health Australia
This information has been prepared by Animal Health Australia in consultation with the Industry Taskforce on Lumpy Skin Disease and the Australian Government. Information correct as of 12/07/2022 Vaccination is the most effective tool for prevention and potential eradication of … Continue reading
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I’ve looked too, I don’t believe it’s in any legislation yet, it has only been discussed or proposed. Plenty of farmers will be saying no.
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Yes, if you’ve provided a schedule of fees. I’m working on an invoice
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Thanks. I’m glad it was helpful. I shared it on the other thread. They are getting tricky, but we have no contract with council or 3rd parties. At worst, if they insist on us participating in their performance, we have the right to meet our accuser, the plaintiff. It could be interesting to ask when SBRC is going to present itself in court in the interests of equity? I let her know she would be held liable in her private capacity and asked for her indemnity insurance details. She didn’t provide them of course.
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Interesting
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You should complete the 3 step process. A friend has encountered the same issue. ‘Overdue rates’ went straight to debt collectors and a day after the date of a letter, they were served similar court filings at their home on a Saturday. We have followed a similar process, yet ours hasn’t escalated yet. They seem to be making an example on some. We received a letter but I returned it to them with a no contract with 3rd party interloper label.
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Fen Phen or Fin Fin was a weight loss pill with terrible side effects apparently. There was a massive lawsuit against the manufacturers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenfluramine/phentermine#
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This is the letter they recently sent along with a history of legislation and where they claim to derive their authority. Trouble is, I didn’t question it, I asked for evidence of a contract, who changed our fee simple rights, and authority other than acts or statutes.
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I think I will send this version, perhaps with an invoice based on schedule of fees, payable upon any future contact.
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Any private corporation requires a contract. No contract, no obligation. Debt collectors are third party interlopers. Did you engage their services? They have not followed due process. Was their paperwork signed? Does it mention the Clerk of the Court? Is there a bar code? Send a second letter, a Notice of Default for failing to reply. Silence is agreement.
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Heritage may not, but it may depend on the staff. I don’t know about credit unions
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Have you tried Heritage or a credit union?
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They read the chip in the licence. They know if we have it on us unless it’s in a protected wallet or other means.
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Yes, that’s the aim. I want to fly under their radar entirely.
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In 2022 I sent:
– a hand written cover note
– a JP witnessed Affidavit of Expenses (he was very curious)
– current 2022 return
– amended 2019, 2020 and 2021 returns.
Any PAYE income reported as income in payment summaries had to be included, and I increased other expenses to take it under the threshold.
I need to do 2023 and 2024 now, but only after they zero our partnership and close the account
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I hadn’t logged in for years. I realise the All Caps may negate my appellation, but I was checking who my authorised rep is on Mygov and discovered it. I need to call and ask some questions. Not sure if the affidavit caused the change or something else. I’ll update when I discover more.
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Hi. There is not a lot of information about many success stories in Australia, but it’s probably more about holding our position. I have sent for a recent Credit Score report in case the NAB card is reflecting on the report as this is a side effect we don’t consider if we are not seeking credit. As credit cards are unsecured loans, if you can deal with or refuse to do business over the phone, return to sender letters from debt collectors, etc and be prepared for push back, after 12 months, they cannot pursue the debt, but it may show up as a bad score on a credit report. I haven’t sought a loan so I haven’t been impacted as yet. I’ll wait for the report and get back to you. I lodged the first 1099A online at https://www.1099online.com/
I have since ordered 100 paper forms straight from the IRS (at no cost!) so I had triplicate hard copies for 1099A – abandonment of property,1099B for the debtor business (eg: NAB) to complete declaring their profit from a transaction for their tax return (1040), 1099C for debtor to cancel any ‘debt’ over $600USD, 1099OID (original issue discount) and 1096. Christopher Hauser on You Tube has some good advice. There is so much to learn and it’s easy to get wrong. The ATO is an agency of the IRS so we all come under their domain, but the Aussie companies are loathe to admit it. Corporations neglect to declare the income they receive from every ‘bill’ we ‘pay’ because they use them as instruments and claim the credit total of every number on every bill, from our trust account and neglect to declare this income to the IRS. They can had up on fraud charges because they claim every customer as an employee by submitting a tax declaration form using our tax file numbers or social security number in the USA.
Some people use the 1099 forms as a form of insurance that they carry in their automobiles in case they are in an accident, but you would need to be very confident in dealing with the police.
I haven’t paid a Telstra ‘bill’ since September 2022 and recently sent a series of 1099A/B/C/OID forms to Telstra CEO offering $20,000 to discharge any ‘debt’. An underling kindly wrote to say they didn’t accept this type of payment to which I thanked ‘her’ for acknowledging it was a form of payment and a payment refused is a debt discharged, is it not? Telstra haven’t played nicely though. We have had loss of service (appropriately invoiced every month), a barrage of phone calls and scams but very little push back recently. I haven’t received a tax invoice or ‘bill’ for months either, but lost our old landline and linked bigpond.com email.
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I have the Zoom meeting link with “Waiting for Host” box ready to go Wednesday, lol.
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Excellent, and the Meeting ID and Zoom link is on the notice so we can join manually if need be.
Thanks!
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As usual, they’re clamping down on the loopholes.
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I hope that works for her. Let us know how Things go.
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I’ve hit a bump with our account at Heritage. Since we chose Cook Islands to set our trust up, I just found out Heritage cannot accept that apparently (at least our branch?) I’ll call head office on Monday. They check their system and can see it is set up in Australia, but governing laws are under Cook Islands. If it’s unregistered, that shouldn’t matter, should it? The manager returns on Monday so I’ll check again then, or we go to another bank. Any suggestions?
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Good luck. I’ll see how I go with Heritage too
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True Kari. A friend left working in a deli because she hated the practice of washing meat. Or go to a butcher. Most small farmers are more than happy to share produce and cash or barter is often welcome. We are ex farmers but have connections and enough pork, venison and beef for a year. We can always shoot deer or rabbits. At least we know what we’re eating.
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Good idea to keep records of everything to be used as evidence. She admitted it’s her opinion the council does not require a contract, therefore there is no contract.
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Thanks Morag. I removed the comment about the Queen. Make no claims! I’m wondering why we’re getting one sort of response and others are getting fast tracked court filings and summons?
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I thought I sent it in a private message to you. I don’t know what the blackout is, but the letter remains if you scroll down
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I recently received a belated reply from council nearly 2 months after sending Final Default and Estoppel on 13th April. Any feedback would be welcome. I’m guessing they tried the debt collectors and met a roadblock so they’re trying to re-contract. They kindly sent a generic Information Memorandum presuming I was questioning the constitution, but I sent a conditional acceptance, with part payment according to BoE and requested evidence of the contract. I’m sending a cease and desist and lawful estoppel. I have 2 versions. Any ideas? Short and sweet or the more detailed version?
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<div>Hi,</div>
Morag often shares the 3 Step process (link below) in her comments. It says it’s for banks, but can be amended. I have used the process for debt collectors. They often stop when you ask for a contract as it doesn’t exist. Occasionally they push it to a second letter, but it rarely gets to a third letter. I had an email from government accounts department returned to the DAFF officer within 8 minutes when I asked for the contract.
Also, I search for return to sender addresses and label any unsolicited window envelopes with:
“Return to sender/Returned for cause without dishonour in commerce/ No lawful consent/No lawful contract/ Offer to contract declined. Unsolicited mail from third party interloper/Delete contact details immediately.”
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1h5ntobu5ty3xmo/Three%20letters%20process%20for%20banks.zip?dl=0
Good luck.
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This reply was modified 2 years ago by Lyn Mangan.
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